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Deadlock Clock: Jan 3rd 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#1: Dec 7th 2013 at 9:33:17 PM

Okay, this one's gonna be a doozy.

I think its pretty obvious everyone knows(or can at least Google) what a bayonet is, so it is not necessary for the trope to illustrate that much... That said, any regular GIS will result in a plethora of awesome images to choose from so, Its worth a stab!

The iconic image that I am suggesting.

edited 7th Dec '13 9:43:30 PM by Paktra

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#2: Dec 7th 2013 at 9:58:14 PM

"Bayonet" isn't a trope, though unfortunately some of the examples are apparently just that. The description seems like it wants to have something to do with Knife Nut or Mix-and-Match Weapon, but doesn't say what exactly. TRS?

edited 7th Dec '13 10:42:22 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#3: Dec 8th 2013 at 12:33:36 AM

[up] Well, while yes I do realize the bayonet or even use of one is not a trope in and of itself, the description does list it as a "Sub-Trope" of Gun Accessories, so I read it as such.

"...seems like it wants to have something to do with Knife Nut or Mix-and-Match Weapon, but doesn't say what exactly."

I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but it specifically states its a common form of it. And it also links to Knife Nut and Mix-and-Match Weapon, etc. Am I missing something here?

As most of these overlap, I don't see much reason (aside from the examples displaying some of the related tropes) to dock it in the shop. Should I sent it their way and see what buzzes?

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#4: Dec 8th 2013 at 1:27:01 AM

I'd send it there, I'm not clear on what makes it distinct enough from Mix-and-Match Weapon.

edited 8th Dec '13 1:27:49 AM by treelo

Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#5: Dec 8th 2013 at 2:23:01 AM

[up] Okay, but I'll hold back on it for a while as I want to get some IP's out the way first.

Other than it being a Real Life example for Mix-and-Match Weapon and Bladeona Stick in the strictest sense of the tropes, not much really.

edited 8th Dec '13 2:24:04 AM by Paktra

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#6: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:29:50 PM

I'm really at a loss as to what the trope description is trying to say. Of the original suggestions, I like this one best.

Here's some others from 40K: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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#7: Dec 10th 2013 at 8:14:32 AM

I think it would be better to have one of the ones that shows the bayonet in use.

[down]As in the OP's or Willbyr's non-40K suggestion.

edited 10th Dec '13 1:05:58 PM by tdgoodrich1

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Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#8: Dec 10th 2013 at 11:55:20 AM

[up][up] Willbyr, from my understanding, the trope is about whenever your main weapon fails/jams/depletes ammunition or for some other reason such as stealth, you must rely on the bayonet as a form of Emergency Weapon.... Or for those that prefer it as a melee Weaponof Choice.

[up] As long as its not too gruesome, sure!

edited 10th Dec '13 11:56:02 AM by Paktra

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#10: Dec 31st 2013 at 11:34:34 AM

Motion to call a Crowner?

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#11: Dec 31st 2013 at 12:42:39 PM

I'm still not sure this is a trope, was going to push to TRS but burnt out on being wrong a lot recently.

edited 31st Dec '13 12:43:46 PM by treelo

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#12: Dec 31st 2013 at 1:14:31 PM

I agree, I do not understand what the point of the article is, so I'm not sure how I would pick a good image.

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#13: Dec 31st 2013 at 1:16:01 PM

The point of the article is "firearm supplied with a blade, like a bayonet, that can be used in addition to the firearm properties".

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#14: Dec 31st 2013 at 1:18:22 PM

So, the use of bayonets or bayonet-like weapons in a work is a trope? Sounds like Mix-and-Match Weapon But More Specific.

edited 31st Dec '13 1:20:50 PM by treelo

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#15: Dec 31st 2013 at 1:20:14 PM

[up]What I said.

edited 31st Dec '13 1:20:33 PM by treelo

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#16: Dec 31st 2013 at 1:23:49 PM

^^^ That is a type of object, not an idea. Anyway the article is very unclear, is this definition-by-fiat?

edited 31st Dec '13 1:25:12 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#17: Dec 31st 2013 at 1:26:14 PM

Aye, I suspect that it is. It could benefit from a trip to the TRS.

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Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#18: Dec 31st 2013 at 3:07:08 PM

Yes, I suppose it would benefit from some fine-tuning... as the majority of the article simply lists broad examples of bayonet usage.

edited 31st Dec '13 3:13:04 PM by Paktra

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#19: Jan 4th 2014 at 8:58:53 AM

The clock's up; locking for inactivity/lack of consensus. Locking up.

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