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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4701: Feb 2nd 2016 at 4:32:39 PM

How about how effective it is from Strategic threats down to tactical. Also if it can swat nukes with ease what is stopping it from swatting conventional weapons or even aircraft?

edited 2nd Feb '16 4:32:50 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4702: Feb 2nd 2016 at 4:49:59 PM

And what about them stops folks from being creative such as driving a truck bomb into a place carrying a nuclear warhead?

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#4703: Feb 2nd 2016 at 4:56:48 PM

By "obsolete" he may have meant "impractical for most purposes" not "impossible to use."

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#4704: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:13:08 PM

Also, delivery systems like truck bombs have some serious limitations if you're trying to wage war in a very mobile fashion. Plus, if you want to take out a wide variety of targets with your truck nukes, you have to get a lot of truck nukes into the enemy territory, which ups the chance that one will be found, either due to an inspection or something mundane like getting in a highway accident short of the target.

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#4705: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:35:58 PM

Just use those and aim low [lol]

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4706: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:38:31 PM

or something mundane like getting in a highway accident short of the target.

"Colonel Ourumov, our truck nuke cannot reach the target! We have two flat tires!"

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#4707: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:09:00 PM

Ah yes, the Atomic Cannon. That and the Davy Crocket are why everyone decided to just take the nukes away from the Army before they got someone killed. [lol]

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4709: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:12:58 PM

Lets just say the range of the Davy Crocket was not friendly for allied troops.

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4710: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:39:04 PM

Not with that attitude it wasn't.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4711: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:07:06 PM

Ivan: No worries comrade. Americanski Davy Crockett kill comrades but they make Yankee glow in the dark.

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MattII Since: Sep, 2009
#4712: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:13:03 PM

Well it was safe for the immediate launch troops with a range of either 2km or 4km, but the guaranteed fatal radiation dose out to ~150m and probably fatal dose out to 400m means that, yes, it wasn't a really good weapon, not if you expected to be attacking over that ground in the near future.

edited 2nd Feb '16 7:13:34 PM by MattII

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4713: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:24:08 PM

^ That's the thing. Davy Crockett was an area-denial and mass casualty weapon. Designed to destroy large clusters of enemies (especially vehicles) and leave an area impassable for a time owing to radiation. No mechanized unit in the 1950s and early 1960s could have driven through the immediate aftermath of a Crockett and made it through before dying of horrible radiation poisoning.

Weapons like that were why the Soviets went whole hog in designing vehicles for the NBC-contaminated battlespace. Stuff like the BMP.

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#4714: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:27:50 PM

I can't be the only person who always parses that acronym as "Bitmap", can I?

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4715: Feb 2nd 2016 at 8:31:20 PM

The big problem with the Crockett was the very high risk of wind blowing an unhealthy dose of that radiation back on the launching troops. It was pretty much a dirty fallout bomb as noted above.

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#4717: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:41:28 AM

At least they didn't try to make potato cannon out of one

But seriously, using nuclear weapons on a tactical scale would be difficult. In part, this is due to the blast and fallout radii. Weapons grade uranium doesn't grow on trees so it's not like every regiment is going to have one, either.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#4718: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:19:47 AM

Plutonium is relatively easy to "farm", though.

Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#4719: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:57:27 AM

$4000 per gram isn't exactly pocket change.

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#4720: Feb 3rd 2016 at 8:25:35 AM

[up]It is for governments.

Also surface skimming and low flying VLO cruise missiles are a thing, while they wouldn't have the same range of higher flying ordnance they'd still get far enough to destroy targets with nuclear warheads far enough from the main battle group.

You wouldn't necessarily detonate the warhead above the enemy either to stall or inflict damage to their forces.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4721: Feb 3rd 2016 at 1:17:11 PM

New Nano scale Lattice Am I the only one who thought armor and possibly stronger and lighter materials for vehicles.

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#4722: Feb 3rd 2016 at 2:55:53 PM

Lighter and stronger everything, really. Overall you'd see a downswing of the effectiveness of weaponry on armor as vehicles simply mount more armor. We could also expect to see lighter, faster vehicles that weren't possible to build before but that's akin to putting people on motorbikes and having them dodge bullets.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4723: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:00:49 PM

I'd figure on the downside though a vehicle made with materials like that would be like driving a blinged out Bentley and doing the same job a beat up old rusted Ford Ranger could do for a tiny fraction of the price.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#4724: Feb 4th 2016 at 12:24:42 PM

If you folks are every struggling with a unique idea to land and lift off something big from a small strip of land.

It had one accident but worked for the other tests. Interesting idea.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#4725: Feb 4th 2016 at 4:21:44 PM

"How about how effective it is from Strategic threats down to tactical. Also if it can swat nukes with ease what is stopping it from swatting conventional weapons or even aircraft?"

It doesn't stop it.

That's why the first order of business in any conflict in my 'verse is knocking out the D.E.A.D systems, either use of special forces, or highly highly specialized and expensive strike aircraft to penetrate deep into territory.

New Survey coming this weekend!

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