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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#122076: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:39:50 AM

Because its NOT the same thing every time, and every thing is it's own unique situation. And expecting someone to overcome issues as deep seated as Shy's with just one quick epiphany about one thing? Not going to happen.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#122077: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:42:41 AM

Well, if her fundamental character isn't going to change at all, why do they keep pretending that it will?

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#122078: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:45:29 AM

[up][up]It's not so much that the situation is the same every time, it's that the common thread through all of the conflicts is Fluttershy's self-confidence issues. Even if she does make progress on that front it would be nice to see them write an episode based on a different element of her character. I mean, episodes like "Keep Calm and Flutter On" have their issues, but at least it actually showed Fluttershy standing up for herself without the episode having to be about that.

It's like how all the early episodes about the CMC revolved around cutie marks. Yeah, the episodes were different, but they were all motivated by the same thing.

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#122079: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:45:41 AM

[up][up]Because people also don't make huge epiphanies that change everything, but rather change in small amounts?

edited 1st Jul '15 10:46:42 AM by EpicBleye

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#122080: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:49:21 AM

I'd really like if they did something like focusing more on her animal caretaking or her relationship with other characters(and not just Discord and RD). Or something else.

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#122081: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:53:02 AM

We need that for more characters in general. We haven't had a good RD and Rarity episode since.. I think Sonic Rainboom actually.

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#122082: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:57:04 AM

I want to see a Mind Swap episode focusing on RD and Rarity, but instead of doing the "Their voices still sound the same even though they are in different bodies" thing, you have the characters who were swapped trying to talk like they normally do. IE RD in Rarity's body still trying to sound all cool and boastful with Rarity's accent and classy voice, and Rarity in RD's body still talking the same way she usually does even though RD's voice is so much different then hers. It would just be hilariously awkward.[lol]

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#122083: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:03:52 AM

Haha, today's page of The Adventures Of Dr Mc Ninja quotes from the FIM theme song. http://drmcninja.com/archives/comic/30p42/

For context, "Jenny" was the older guy's online girlfriend, who he's been searching for these past few years. And it turns out she was a chatbot all along.

edited 1st Jul '15 11:04:10 AM by MetaFour

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#122084: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:06:11 AM

[up][up][up]Even then their wasn't a lot of interaction between the two.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#122085: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:10:56 AM

Rarity's accent is an affectation though. Which would mean that she'd probably still be doing it in RD's body.

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#122086: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:30:54 AM

[insert G3 joke here]

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marston Since: Sep, 2011
#122087: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:40:04 AM

True. Back to the Fluttershy topic, when you can sum up nearly all of a character's episodes in the same way, that's not a good sign. I mean, can you do that with any other character besides the Season 1 CMC episodes? Probably not.

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#122088: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:45:28 AM

warning: sarcasm

Twilight: things don't go her way. hilarity ensues.

Rarity: she isn't fabulous enough.

Applejack: apples don't apple enough

Pinkie Pie: there's more to life than parties

Rainbow Dash: she's perfect and no one understands it

Spike: useless lol

edited 1st Jul '15 11:46:03 AM by EpicBleye

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#122090: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:47:06 AM

[up]That's a more fitting description, sadly.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#122091: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:55:39 AM

And you can't do that with ANY of them.

Unless you know, you boil away every single possible detail look at only the most basic, bland, stripped down everything, even then it's hard.

It's the DETAIL'S that matter, if you are choosing to ignore those, and then claim things are all the same, that's your fault.

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#122093: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:59:30 AM

[up][up] what are you talking about i totally just did

sarcasm aside, there are persisting and very similar themes with certain characters in their episodes.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#122094: Jul 1st 2015 at 12:09:38 PM

Yes, but each has still been it's own thing. It's own approach to them.

Pretty much the only one that really is kind of falling into a rut is Spike, since he does tend to have the most blatant recycling of the same idea, plus that fact that in pretty much all of his eps, the source of the conflict is his own screw-ups.

[down] What he said.

edited 1st Jul '15 12:13:22 PM by Seraphem

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#122095: Jul 1st 2015 at 12:12:07 PM

It's really more a question of what you can do with that theme rather than whether it's there. Spike gets hit with it the worst (nearly every episode focusing on him boils down to "Spike really really wants to be helpful"). Fluttershy has some shades of it, as a lot of episodes deal with her self-confidence issues, but there's a bit more variety there that keeps it from feeling as repetitive.

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#122096: Jul 1st 2015 at 1:04:41 PM

One of the reasons I liked "Bats!" was because it didn't focus on Fluttershy's self-confidence levels as much as standing up for what she believes in. I mean, I guess that's related to self-confidence issues, but not as much as her other episodes. I also liked her "Breezies" episode for the same reason. But I'd really like more episodes that deal with her being an animal caretaker rather than her being shy. That's what I appreciated about "Tanks for the Memories," because it had Fluttershy act as an animal expert, something she doesn't usually get to do.

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#122097: Jul 1st 2015 at 1:06:18 PM

The Breezies episode was good Fluttershy episode for sure, but the ending absolutely killed it for me, and I don't think it was all that great of an episode overall. In fact it's one of my least favorites. It turned it from "Fluttershy solved the conflict!" to "Twilight has just what we need as always!""

But I agree on the whole animal caretaking part. I always expect more of that than I see, other than some background stuff that may go on.

edited 1st Jul '15 1:08:19 PM by EpicBleye

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#122098: Jul 1st 2015 at 1:23:55 PM

I loved the Breezies episode. So what, you just don't like how it ended? Yeah it was kind of a "buy our toys" move, but I still really liked it over all.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
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#122099: Jul 1st 2015 at 1:25:21 PM

Meh, the problem Twilight solved was a conflict that came out of nowhere and didn't have to do with the real moral of the episode anyway.

When you have a diabolus ex machina, it's perfectly reasonable to solve it with a deus ex machina.

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#122100: Jul 1st 2015 at 1:28:01 PM

I just felt it was completely unneeded. They could've done just fine with the breezies leaving on their own without Twilight Ex Machina plot. (Which forever annoys me whenever it pops up. Including the bats episode.)

I also didn't like the breezies episode because apparently no other breezie had a family or friends or a life that they wanted to get back to, which made no sense to me whatsoever.

edited 1st Jul '15 1:29:02 PM by EpicBleye

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