I can't even find the Hebrew. You're right. He's not identifiable as Israeli. Pull.
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+1 to pull for the aforementioned issues and for quality.
No, the other one.
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Several, but I worry that people will argue JAFAAC on most because the Israeli army signage isn't all that obvious when it appears.
I was afraid that I'd find You Dont Mess With The Zohan as the page image... It's a funny movie, but nothing that makes it obviously apparent that Adam Sandler's character is Israeli.
edited 10th Sep '13 4:38:25 AM by DRCEQ
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Unfortunately, I can see why they'd argue so - although many of them are good images.
I've been trying to see if I can find one of Mosha Dayan in some sort of uniform, but I can't find one where it's readily viewable that he is Israeli, so it would probably be JAFAAC as well.
I'll have to argue a pull for this one, because unless there's one where the flag or some other sort of symbol is more easily visible, then this one'll be better off without an image.
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No, the other one.
I think a Middle East like environment at least suggests the right area. I mean, I don't think we need to be that explicit about labelling them Israeli, as long as there's some indication it's not just some random dude in the waiting room of a beauty parlour or whatever it is. I also think wearing proper military fatigues suggests they're connected to a specific nationality.
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Maybe Sabra, especially the top panel?
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Or hell, something from the The Hebrew Hammer counts, so that would be easy.
I'm currently looking for a screencap of Lucky Number Slevin when the two ex-MOSSAD guys burst through a wall. I'm pretty sure they were wearing fairly prominent Stars of David...
edited 11th Sep '13 6:25:17 AM by Larkmarn
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Only on a half serious note, a somewhat ham-fisted approach but nonetheless an option would be that old "Jew-Jitsu" joke: [1]
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No, the other one.
I'm not sure stereotypical Jews are covered by the trope.
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Nope. This trope is about the Israeli stereotype that they are all badass because Israel is a really military state. Normal Jews are not part of that.
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4 is good. The best ones are Israeli women can use their heads for her brown hair, tan skin, and the desert behind her and Israeli women have faith for the book she's holding over her heart, even though we can't make out what it actually is.
Darnit, I'm trying to think of who that was... There's a Marvel Comics superheroine who represents Israel with a Star of David themed costume, and she's actually pretty strong. Hmmmm... :/
Ahh, here we go.
Her name is Sabra.
Here's what GIS comes up with.
I think this one in particular is pretty awesome.
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edited 11th Sep '13 4:40:18 AM by DRCEQ
That looks more like "Badass + Israeli", with no connection between the traits. The trope has more to it than that.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Well, search through the GIS pics for alternatives. At least she's positively portrayed, and not in a stereotypical manner.
If this trope doesn't cover "badass jews" then the description should be amended, since it says that it "Can loosely apply to non-Israeli Jewish characters who are as tough as shoe leather, at least if their Jewishness is played up enough. Can often be Truth in Television too, as evidenced below."
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x4 That's interesting, and would be a great addition to an Image Links page, but I lean toward using one of the RL pics previously linked.
edited 11th Sep '13 6:13:39 AM by Willbyr
No, the other one.
I don't think someone who looks like a superhero makes for a good image here. Being a superhero overshadows nationality in badass terms. Someone who's in the military is at least a normal human.
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Having a costumed superhero represent Israel at least tells you that they represent the country, and would imply that they are Israeli. The current image is badass- doing pushups with no hands is pretty badass- but there is nothing to indicate or imply what nationality he is.
I think a visually representative character is an improvement over the current, or at least a step in the right direction.
I think the top of the Sabra pic I posted earlier would work. She's clearly badass, clearly Israeli, and since she's flying with planes, at least indicates some connection to the military.
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^ Ahh, I didn't know you already suggested Sabra. (Made his earlier posts right after waking up.)
I think the shot of the F-4 Phantoms is awesome, but the picture wouldn't look too good at wiki size. It's a really wide shot.
Yeah, that was my concern too.
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No, the other one.
Yes, it implies she's both Israeli and badass, but badass because superhero and Israeli because proud nationalist, with no connection between them.
edited 11th Sep '13 8:03:28 AM by AnotherDuck
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I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to be looking at here - It simply looks like an individual that's jumped up after doing some sort of exercise routine to me. While there's Hebrew in the background, there's barely enough there for it to really stand out to me and say 'Yes, they're Israeli'.
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