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Deadlock Clock: Dec 24th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
iRidescence
#26: Oct 10th 2013 at 7:49:08 AM

I don't think the description of Broken Messiah is really merge-able with Broken Hero, nor Heroic Self-Deprecation, but the name does seem to invite misuse. A clearer name should be sufficient, IMO.

edited 10th Oct '13 7:49:36 AM by theAdeptrogue

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#27: Oct 10th 2013 at 4:15:12 PM

That it's similar to Broken Hero though they are unrelated suggests it should be renamed too.

ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#28: Oct 18th 2013 at 8:04:48 AM

Bumb. I see three options discussed so far

1. Cutting for not being a trope

2. Merging into another trope

3. Renaming for clarity.

Have I missed anything?

edited 18th Oct '13 8:04:57 AM by ChaoticNovelist

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#29: Oct 18th 2013 at 9:43:46 AM

Looks like that's all the options.

edited 18th Oct '13 9:43:58 AM by MikuruFan

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#30: Oct 18th 2013 at 3:45:59 PM

The second option will need an article specified or else we'll end up disagreeing on which article to merge this into.

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#31: Oct 18th 2013 at 3:52:34 PM

There are a lot of tropes mentioned earlier. I'd look at the relationship with this trope.

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theAdeptRogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
iRidescence
#33: Nov 21st 2013 at 7:11:27 AM

Regarding the second option, suggested pages to merge into so far was Broken Hero and Heroic Self-Deprecation. Although I still don't believe the definitions are really merge-able...

edited 9th Dec '13 9:26:29 PM by theAdeptRogue

Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#34: Nov 21st 2013 at 1:36:05 PM

So, this trope seems like a combination of Fatal Flaw/Mr. Vice Guy and Internalized Categorism. It's definitely a Sister Trope to Heroic Self-Deprecation, though I don't think it's quite the same thing.

Broken Hero seems completely unrelated.

Maybe Minor Vice Overreaction? 90% Good is Not Good Enough?

edited 21st Nov '13 1:50:15 PM by Prime32

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#35: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:53:06 AM

Reclocking; this one will stick.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#36: Dec 25th 2013 at 8:32:16 PM

Seeing nothing done, let's lock up.

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