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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1: Aug 10th 2013 at 11:42:11 AM

The picture seems to be a literal interpretation, but the problem is that it looks like a human. Going from the picture, it seems like the woman is needed for a breeding program for an extended human expedition to Mars, while this trope is really about "monstrous beings love human women."

Here's a bunch of 50s B-Movie Posters that not only illustrate it, but convey the trope's history: Saucer Men I like this one because it isn't from space, demonstrating that the trope doesn't have to be about aliens Ditto, but I don't like the art as much.

Mars People from Metal Slug?

King Kong?

edited 10th Aug '13 12:02:30 PM by Larkmarn

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010
#2: Aug 10th 2013 at 1:09:05 PM

Yeah, I don't like the current. Here's my order of preference: Cft BL > Saucer Men > Giant > Current > King Kong > Mars People

edited 10th Aug '13 1:09:17 PM by nitrokitty

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#3: Aug 10th 2013 at 2:42:09 PM

I kinda like the Mars People pic, strictly because it's showing affection and not simply abduction, and I feel like the King Kong pic is in use on another page...might be wrong.

That said, I have no objection to the current...the complaint seems really nitpicky.

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#4: Aug 10th 2013 at 6:55:51 PM

I don't think it's terribly nitpicky that the current is pretty misleading.

The trope is "Non-humanoids find Earth women attractive." The picture illustrates, at best, "human colony needs human women to reproduce." It's literally accurate, but unrelated to the actual trope.

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#5: Aug 10th 2013 at 7:04:46 PM

It's funny how often "at best" is often used with the meaning "at worst" or "in a way that furthers my argument".

I like the Mars People image if the trope is also about mutual relationships. It's less physical attraction and more mentally compatible individuals.

The Creature from the Black Lagoon one isn't bad either.

That said, I have no objection to the current...the complaint seems really nitpicky.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6: Aug 10th 2013 at 7:19:41 PM

Yeah, that was poorly worded on my part.

But you have to admit, at best this is a Human Alien and again, it's very clearly not interested in the women romantically, but rather as a Stalker with a Test Tube.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#7: Aug 10th 2013 at 7:30:47 PM

Isn't Stalker with a Test Tube a valid overlap with this trope, though?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#8: Aug 10th 2013 at 8:53:49 PM

If it is, the description doesn't describe it. As-is, it's pretty clear it's about something wildly non-human pursuing human females because it's sexually attracted to them/in love with her.

If the definition gets expanded to fit that, I'd be less complain-y (though I still think a B-Movie poster of some sort is still better than the webcomic panel). Until then I'm strongly against current.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Aug 10th 2013 at 10:22:42 PM

I don't think motivation is defining the trope. It's really about aliens or monsters stealing women because they're valuable and need protection, which gives motivation for the heroes to go rescue them and/or defeat the monsters. Why the antagonists do that isn't really relevant. It's just something to make them appear as threats without having to kill random people the audience doesn't care about anyway.

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#10: Aug 10th 2013 at 10:50:07 PM

Having read many of the examples, I tend to agree with Willbyr on this. The trope seems to be about non-humans who either fall in love with a human or just plain want to breed with humans (ignoring the obvious complications). The Mars People pic seems to illustrate the trope well in that regard.

Can we make a case for using a composite of two pictures? Perhaps Creature above with Mars People below? This would illustrate both sides of the trope.

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#11: Aug 11th 2013 at 1:41:21 AM

I have never seen King Kong anywhere else.

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#12: Aug 21st 2013 at 6:18:16 AM

Crowner's hooked. Can someone please check the link for 1.2 and update the description? I'm not where I can access it right now.

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#13: Aug 21st 2013 at 6:35:35 PM

I feel like this has a bad name if it's primarily about affection and not abduction. At least it needs a misuse check.

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#14: Aug 21st 2013 at 7:17:31 PM

If the Metal Slug example wins, I'd like to edit out the background.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#15: Aug 21st 2013 at 7:20:25 PM

That would be a huge improvement.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#16: Aug 21st 2013 at 8:31:28 PM

Swap this in for Metal Slug.

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#17: Aug 21st 2013 at 8:48:40 PM

Here's the Mars People pic at wiki size and with as much of the extraneous stuff gone as I could do in Paint. Someone with more skill than I will have to tackle anything else.

EDIT: Gah, ninja'd while I was working on this...your version sacrifices size for crispness. Hmmmm...

edited 21st Aug '13 8:49:54 PM by Willbyr

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#18: Aug 21st 2013 at 9:02:21 PM

I like 16 better.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#19: Aug 21st 2013 at 9:50:46 PM

Add them both as new options?

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#20: Aug 21st 2013 at 11:59:16 PM

Best of both, possibly? [1]

I like the Creature better though, I feel like the attacking monster version of the trope is very common.

edited 22nd Aug '13 12:01:26 AM by rodneyAnonymous

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#21: Aug 22nd 2013 at 12:01:10 AM

I like that. Crisp, and well visible at small size.

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#22: Aug 22nd 2013 at 4:10:47 AM

I'll say it again - the problem with all of the options aside from the current and the Mars People pic is that all they clearly depict is abduction; there's no indication of preference/attraction/what have you, which is a key factor in the trope.

Honestly, I prefer the background-less version of the Mars People pic, all the other stuff clogs the image.

edited 22nd Aug '13 4:12:51 AM by Willbyr

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#23: Aug 22nd 2013 at 4:27:02 AM

I like the version I made as well.

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#24: Aug 22nd 2013 at 5:42:19 AM

I think it looks weird with a white background, is all.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#25: Aug 22nd 2013 at 11:06:25 AM

[up][up][up]Again, I think the name evokes abduction more than attraction, though that's a TRS topic.

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