Zootopia

Yes, Jenny Slate plays Gidget. This further enhances my theory that when she shrieks, everything starts going straight to hell.

Nah, I mostly wanted to comment on Jenny Slate's voice. It's a voice crush, like I had on Garrus Vakarian or TOR's female Imperial Agent. Or Scarjo in Her but it's kind of the point of the movie, so it doesn't count.

The first episode of a fan-produced Zootopia audiodrama has been released.

I hope you like High School AU.

edited 30th Sep '16 9:25:07 AM by Gault

Don't wanna devolve this thread into politics, but this was certainly a thing that happened this Monday. (The invite◊, if you were curious.)

Actually, I'm just surprised Disney kept the Zootopia ball rolling with that; I'd have assumed they'd go all-out on Moana at this point.

If only real world villains could be as polite and intelligent as Bellwether...

There are no "villains". Only threats.

x3

They connect the villain to Trump, but the irony in that is before being retooled, the villain was a blond female pig named 'Mayor Swinton'. Furthermore, when the story was first described to me by someone on the inside, back when they were using the obedience collars in the plot, the impression I got wasn't so much that that story was an allegory for race, but for gender.

But yeah, the plot changed drastically since then, which isn't abnormal in animated production

Please do elaborate. That sounds interesting.

Some stuff got carried into the final film. Like predator spray and attack whistles. In real life who is more likely to be labeled a predator, a man or a woman? Who's not supposed to be able to control their biological urges, etc.

There was a scene, I believe it made it into the DVD special features, where there was like a Bar Mitzvah-esque party where a father is getting his son fitted for his first collar and he's like "I'm a big boy now!" and the dad has this bittersweet realization that now that he's become an adult he will be eyed as a threat.

Finally saw it off Netflix. Good stuff with solid themes and a few good laugh-lines, beautiful environments, a wide world of stuff to see, and Judy's optimism is delightful.

Some plot-holes though, like how Nick knew exactly when Judy's "48 hours" had started ticking, and some other stuff that i can't remember, but wondered how Nick knew that. Judy puts everything about "Night Howlers" together too neatly too. Coincidence is how this stuff works in movies, i guess, but it still came off as too easy.

Judy gives him an exact point of reference after they exit Mystic Springs Oasis - when he complains she's keeping him on the hook forever when she asks him to run a plate, she retorts with "Not forever! Well, I only have 36 hours to solve this case". He probably just did the math in his head when rebutting Chief Bogo.

Plus it's likely that he could have just checked the clock on his phone at any time.

Speaking of that scene, did anyone else notice that Judy got a bit confused at eight-fingered Nick saying they still had ten hours left?

edited 2nd Oct '16 9:44:44 AM by theLibrarian

Think Zootopia qualifies as one of those films that you could watch over and over again and get something new out of it each time?

edited 2nd Oct '16 2:13:02 PM by nervmeister

I'll have to watch it more than once before I can be sure, but probably.

I think I've watched it, like, 6-7 times by now. It's been spread out, to be fair... though mostly in the sense that I watched it like 4 times when it hit video, sat on it for several months, then got the urge to watch it multiple times again very recently.

I feel kinda bad for being that obsessed, but, hey, why not?

And yeah, you do pick up on a few new things each time. They did a pretty good job of animating each character during each scene, such that you can focus on the one keeping their yap shut and still see what's going through their mind while the others in the shot are doing the talking. You can pick up on foreshadowing they did of events later in the film. You can see little background details, like the film marquee advertising "Star Trunk" or a poster for the Broadway^* or the Zootopia equivalent, anyway musical "Rats". A lot of this isn't really that special - any good film should be expected to do it - but liking the film as much as I did gives me ample reason to appreciate those small things regardless.

edited 2nd Oct '16 10:52:52 PM by ShadowHog

I only watched it twice and I saw the foreshadowing of the villain on the second time.

And I actually found the part with the Frozen characters (or the kids cosplaying as them).

And I realized Rodentia had cops. Just none of a size that can handle Duke Weaselton.

On a later viewing, I picked up on Nick's psychologically projecting on Judy as he cruelly tells her how her own life will play out.

Yeah, I'm betting he says that because Zootopia's built on stereotypes, and his own experience there's nothing else for her to do that she'll be accepted for other than going home and being a carrot farmer.

...something she actually does! But not through any fault of the system Nick was criticizing.

Again, this film is so chock full of foreshadowing and rewatch bonuses that it rivals the works of Edgar Wright. That's how tightly written it is.

Though, it should be noted, for all the projecting he's doing during that dressing-down he gives Judy, he probably doesn't live under that bridge Judy finds him under later, as the speech would imply - his address is stated on his tax forms as "1955 Cypress Grove Lane", and I doubt a bridge would have a house number.

Yeah, it was most likely some kind of hangout spot.

So Nick is not a (literal) troll, confirmed.

"Yo, Finnick! Where does Nick hang out? I need to talk with him. It's important..."

Still, did Nick suddenly become a bum after they fell out? And by bum, I mean no job at all, that includes no more hustles or scams at all during the reign of terror.

Fun fact: Jenny Slate is also Pony Head on Star Vs The Forces Of Evil.

So that makes at least TWO Star Vs. cast members in this film!

edited 10th Oct '16 8:04:46 AM by kyun

Pony Head.