Global terrorism thread

Are we sure he is Shia? I mean, ISIS is practically committing genocide against them. Why would he support that?

He could just be crazy or he had others motives we don't know about yet.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

It's highly probable he's just crazy, because (IIRC) his demands from the police we're "a phone call to Tony Abbot" and "bring me a flag of Daesh".

The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground

Maybe he was planning to desecrate or burn the flag? But yeah, he clearly had something wrong with him mentally judging by his demands.

The police have updated the death toll to 3, including the gunman. http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-australia-30475711

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

The BBC website said he was a Shia who converted to Sunni.

BTW, who is Tony Abbot?

You mean not an experienced terrorist — i.e. a first-timer at terrorism? Because what he does definitely counts as terrorism, if only quite low on the severity totem pole of terrorist acts.

edited 15th Dec '14 11:22:05 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Tony Abbot is the Australian Prime Minister ^note  much to the dislike of quite a few Aussie Tropers.

Keep Rolling On

... Ok, I'll bite: What do you suppose this nutcase thought he was going to accomplish by phoning the Australian PM?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

At this level of incompetence, it's not clear whether he's a terrorist, a wacko or a criminal. We don't know his motivation, so we can't really tell yet.

The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground

Conclude that he was sane on the basis that a world where Abbot is elected PM is crazier than he could ever be?

Honestly I doubt he thought that far ahead, all the signs indicate he was throwing out demands at random, he probably asked for a helicopter to, just because that's what hostage takers ask for in the movies.

Also in good news the Iranian government have come out and both condemned what happened and called this guy nuts. They're claiming they warned the Australian government several times about this guy being crazy.

edited 15th Dec '14 11:49:07 AM by SilasW

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

It's understandable that the Iranian government was against him considering he had turned Sunni and (according to the BBC profile of him) called Shia Rafidis.

Supposedly even the online Jihad supporters (according to the same page) disowned him and his actions. Probably a guy who carried out dozens of sexual assaults is too bad for even them (publicly at least - many Daesh soldiers are at least as awful)

Indeed, and it is a pejorative term.

edited 15th Dec '14 12:55:43 PM by betaalpha

"Rafidis" means "rejectors", apparently "rejectors of what the person using the term considers the True Islamic Faith".

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I wonder if he used the same term against the online Jihadis as well?

Keep Rolling On

If they were Shia or other non-Sunni branches, yes. The guy had converted to Sunni Islam and it appears he was a supporter of Daesh and similar Sunni extremists.

edited 15th Dec '14 1:30:39 PM by betaalpha

Pakistani official: 84 children dead in Taliban school attack - (Reuters) - At least 84 children have been killed in a Taliban attack on a school in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar on Tuesday, a provincial official said.

edited 16th Dec '14 1:58:59 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot

Oh, my God.

Another article

Fighting is still ongoing, the casualty count will certainly increase.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.

BBC article: Pakistan Taliban kill scores in Peshawar school massacre

It is also important to note that many of the children are the children of members of the military taking part in the recent anti-Taliban offensives.

This area has long been a problem — even The Raj, The British Empire had almost-constant problems keeping the area under control.

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Local Media: TTP militants storm Peshawar school, 130 killed

edited 16th Dec '14 3:52:21 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On

Not news I wanted to wake up to.

God save the children. All those wonderful toys, and the bloody Pak Army can't even save a school....

Too true....

edited 16th Dec '14 5:56:57 AM by FFShinra

That would be because the Pakistani Army isn't designed to actually fight wars. The guns of Rawalpindi point inwards.

edited 16th Dec '14 5:43:13 AM by Achaemenid

Schild und Schwert der Partei

Damn, two too many sad news today.

Peshawar school attack: Backlash against Pakistan Taliban

'India with Pakistan': school massacre solidarity

edited 16th Dec '14 10:50:58 AM by betaalpha

Best tweet on the attacks:

edited 16th Dec '14 11:26:52 AM by arcanephoenix

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Ah, Garry Kasparov. I have some books on chess from him. His analogy isn't strictly accurate, tho'.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I am angry and broken and have officially lost my god once and for all.

I do not care about the analogy.

Not right now.

These things cannot exist in any form of civilisation. There can be no compromise with the kind of people who will willingly walk into a school and shoot a hundred kids. Anything less than complete eradication of this abomination is just going to kill people slower.

In a movie, I would've thought of this as a lazy way to show that the villains are irredeemable bad guys, crossing the moral event horizon. In real life, I know why it'd be so effective.

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And yet people want us to "negotiate" with Hamas.
-sighs-

The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground