DC Extended Universe

DC line-up of movies.

We also discussed the casting decisions and rumored casting.

I did post two links one about Neil Gaiman stating that the reason Sandman wasn't revealed was because it is a Vertigo title so that is a different slate of announcements. The other link was that James Wan will direct a DC Comics film for New Line Cinema and WB.

x7 No, four universes:

• Fox-X-Men franchise, Fantastic Four
• Sony-Amazing Spider-Man franchise
• Marvel-Marvel Cinematic Universe
• DC-DC Cinematic Universe

Possibly 5 if WB is keeping DC and Vertigo movies separate uniserses.

Most the rumored Vertigo titles don't even fit into the Super Hero genre.

Five. X-Men and Fantastic Four are separate, with sound reasoning behind it.

Why does Shazam have to be so far away?

But is Fantastic four a "Universe"? It doesn't seem designed to be one.

Since virtually every other superhero movie is involved in a connected universe, Fantastic Four should count as one by virtue of being its own separate thing.

Besides, it has the potential to be one, albeit smaller than pretty much any other, since with the Fantastic Four comes Silver Surfer (and with Sinister Six, a Doom movie doesn't seem all that ridiculous). If Amazing Spider-Man gets counted as its own universe, I don't see why Fantastic Four shouldn't be.

Of course, if the quality of the reboot is as predicted, it will likely never get that far. But if every other franchise is its own "universe", then Fantastic Four must be qualified as its own as well.

edited 22nd Oct '14 8:00:33 AM by khfan429

Spider-Man is more a Cinematic City than an universe. There is a reason why Sony is struggling to make it work.

I am not even sure if I should call X-Men an Universe, it is more a collection of prequels, sequels and spin-offs. The fascinating thing about the MCU is that there are movies which are basically set around the same time, but telling what happens in different parts of the world.

Does anyone has a chart which movies will count as part of the DC Universe and which won't? Currently the whole thing is a little bit confusing.

DC: All superhero movies released after Mo S aside from Lego Batman and the Vertigo movie(s?).

Marvel/Disney: All superhero movies released after Iron Man aside from Big Hero 6.

Fox: X-Men are in their own world thus far. Do FP retconned away some movies but some events probably still happened.

FF we don't know if they are in the same universe or not(I'm leaning not)but the old movies aren't canon to this universe.

Sony: All Spider-Man connected movies are in the same universe.

It's been confirmed that Fantastic Four is their own thing. Which is fine. X-Men doesn't mesh very well with other superhero things, especially since prejudice against superpowered people probably won't be much of a thing in Fantastic Four.

And anyway, X-men is barely a universe. It's a non-linear series about Wolverine with one prequel that he only has a cameo in.

edited 22nd Oct '14 10:50:07 AM by Zendervai

Don't forget that its highly unlikely FF will do well enough to get any actual sequels or spinoffs, aside from *maybe* the 7 year mandatory release to maintain the rights.

Would they even bother if it flopped that bad? FF was never a big hit to begin with so if the reboot fails I'm inclined to think they'd just give up and let Marvel have it.

They might hold onto it out of revenge, though. Or to have something to hold over Marvel.

There's no sense on keeping wasting money over petty rivalries.

Its not about wasting money, its about negotiation. The only reason Fox is making a FF reboot in the first place is so they can hold onto the rights, and hopefully sell them to Marvel in the future. They don't *want* to make FF movies; they want a nice 9 figure check from Marvel.

A failing property probably isn't going to be worth all that much, though. If the reboot fails it lessens their bargaining power.

That's what that all is about, isn't it? Marvel pulled the comics in order to weaken the property and Fox now desperately wants the next movie to be a success.

That seems complicated.

And Marvel also killed (has killed? will kill?) Wolverine, so there's that.

Good riddance, if you ask me.

edited 23rd Oct '14 6:27:58 AM by higherbrainpattern

Right, because that's going to last, right?

Approximately until Marvel has the rights back.

DC owns all rights themselves, right?

Yes Warner Bros. and DC owns the movie rights to all of their properties.

It gets messy with some Vertigo comics titles because some are creator owned.

WB owns the rights for a while until they revert back to their creator like the Preacher TV Series WB lost the rights and it is now owned by the creator of Preacher.

edited 23rd Oct '14 7:38:02 AM by Halberdier17

Geoff Johns talks about DC's TV and film Multiverse.

Considering all of the different products they have out right now, this is really the only way they could handle it.

Multiverse? A fashionable word for "we have some properties, and some of them we might cross over if we want to". Which is basically something DC did since the 1960s, just not in non-animated movies.

If they ever do a Crisis on Infinite Earths movie or television event, that might give them a reason to cross movie and tv show together. I think one of the Crises has been foreshadowing in Flash already.