Homestuck Hangout!

I haven't used MS Paint in forever, but I think the following should still be true:

Copy & paste should be under edit, or doable with the shortcuts ctrl-c (copy), ctrl-v (paste), and ctrl-x (cut),

Uploading a picture file to the internet is something you have to do on a website, not in Paint itself,

Animating drawings takes another application,

And drawing something that looks acceptable also takes another application.

Thanks! I realized my issues with copy and paste are most likely due to the fact that the program I'm using technically isn't MS Paint, it's a crappy copy of the MS Paint program adjusted for the OS system, which means the typical controls function weirdly. And sadly no application can ever help me fix my terrible art skills.

Don't be so pessimistic. My art looks a lot less shitty when I use Gimp (though I guess any multi-layered image editor would do) to color under the lineart, before getting rid of the crappy lineart entirely.

Finally finished Homestuck Vol. 10.

So how many of you guys still consider yourselves "serious" Homestucks? As in, you still unironically like Homestuck and think about it on the reg? Because I jumped on the fandom bandwagon a little late, and now when I want to geek out about the comic, I feel like there's nobody left to geek out to.

I think Homestuck is a work of considerable artistic merit, but that people aren't taking it seriously because it appeals mostly to kids and teenagers (and at times seems to make itself hostile to anyone who isn't a kid or a teenager), and the people that liked it back during the boom have gotten a little older and feel like they "outgrew" it.

Homestuck ahs changed considerably across it's entire run. The reasons I like it now aren't the reasons i liked it initially or even partway through, so a lot of people leave it midway or don't get to the sections they'd like because of how dense it is. I've said this before but the kickstarter is what ultimately did homestuck in. It was done at a time where Kickstarter was a HOT COMMODITY but before the comic was near done. Now hussie and to script out a game, pull together a studio, and finish the comic, all of which are full time jobs. Once he started taking time off of the comic, the momentum it had held for so long broke, and the fandom moved to other webcomics and to the surging return of cartoons aimed at 20 somethings. Once they were gone, the year long hiatus was too much. People just stopped caring, and by the time it finished it had lost it's way and it's charm.

Well I still like Homestuck and like seeing Homestuck fan art, but I'm not like re-reading the comic. Most of my music library is either from the official Homestuck bandcamp, LOFAM or Cool And New Webcomic, though. I still listen to all that a lot.

I don't really consider myself a Homestuck anymore, although I honestly still am one. It's just, the ending, you know?

If I had still been into Homestuck for just the reasons I originally found myself enjoying it, the humor, the characters, the escalating level of crazy- I might have been fine with the ending, and stayed comfortable as a fan of the comic after it finished. Although I might still have preferred Problem Sleuth.

But I fell down what are essentially two holes- one would be the theory hole. I got invested in the workings of SBURB and Paradox Space, the meaning of classpects, the mechanics of timelines and the retcons, and the underlying themes reflecting Gnosticism, Thelema, and Homestuck's own thing about will, The Ultimate Riddle.

I got heavily into that stuff, and enjoyed Homestuck so much more because of it, but the ending really didn't exhibit much of these- and, in fact, kinda outright betrayed some of them, and I've slowly soured on the comic as a whole, because of that. But I do think falling down that hole to begin with was worth it. I had a lot of fun, got more engaged with the whole thing, comic and fandom, and it was a beautiful excuse to go on about fake physics a lot. I actually got better at that, because of it.

The other hole I fell down, was a roleplay hole. Which, I'm still dwelling in. I roleplay on MSPARP regularly, as Rose or Kanaya, and I've on and off participated in group chats; I've met a lot of people through it, a lot of whom I still chat with, and count as friends. Through an invitation by another person in the MSPARP thread, I wound up in a Skype group, which I still chat in regularly; through MSPARP, in various ways, I'm in three other groups, and through Impossiblah I'm in yet another. The vast majority of people I talk to online, especially those I can count as friends, are Homestucks, or former Homestucks.

It's still such an important thing to me, and would be, even if I swore the comic off completely and only roleplayed in non-Homestuck parts of MSPARP. I still talk in the thread, when it comes back to life for a stretch, despite my growing disinterest with the comic proper (and TV Tropes itself, for that matter), because it was a community that I really got into- and largely the first online one I really did so with.

This ramble probably isn't that great of an answer, but it's a thing I kind of wanted to say anyways, so.

Addendum: It didn't fucking die it dropped from my subscribe list god fucking damnit.

edited 23rd Jan '17 10:25:45 AM by RaichuKFM

I was never a huge homestuck. I had a group of irl friends that all read it and we liked discussing it and stuff, but it was never a huge part of my life the same way, say, My Little Pony was.

That said, I guess I'd still consider myself a homestuck if only because I have read the whole thing and enjoyed a good portion of the comic, and I care enough about it that I'm vocal about how bad the ending was and how the end didn't do justice for what homestuck could have been.

I guess I'm still kind of a Homestuck, but I'm left with a sour taste in my mouth about it since it's ending. I struggle to really care anymore about anything Homestuck after it ended. Maybe if I reread the comic, I'll care about it again, but as it stands, I'm just out of any genuine love for Homestuck.

Well, I can't really hold it against you if you fell out of love. I, too, thought the ending was the biggest letdown since Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. That whole time, we felt like the story was building up to something amazing that was going to blow our minds forever, and then, it ended on a wet fart.

But, man... I still love the setting, and the characters, and troll culture, and the shipping potential, and all the ways it plays with things like classical philosophy and Christian Gnosticism (I didn't catch the Thelema stuff). I can't simply "discard" my Homestuck fandom because of how much it's stimulated me, emotionally and intellectually, over the years.

I wish Homestuck had only gotten bigger and bigger. I hope it manages to bounce back and deliver on some more of its promises. There is still that epilogue coming, apparently, since the Instagram stuff wasn't it. Or so I've heard.

So what is homestruck?

I haven't been much into Harry Potter, but everything I've heard about Deathly Hallows makes it sounds not only like a good ending, but infinitely better than Act 7.

Better question is, what isn't Homestuck?

edited 23rd Jan '17 2:58:28 PM by AdricDePsycho

Well does it have nuclear bombs,a pet goat,randomness like people being chased by bees or outbreaks of rabies?

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:05:54 PM by Coleman

Kids play game that ends world. Become friends with alien internet trolls. Have a lot of shenanigans, sometimes in anachronistic order. Many large cast herds.

Inspired by old text adventure games and Earthbound and Neverending Story and just a whole bunch of stuff.

Usually told in single panels with text underneath but also has a number of flash videos sprinkled throughout. And some interactive video game-ish walkarounds.

While it was ongoing, part of the charm was the interaction between the author and the audience. Originally, fan prompts were a big part of the early direction. Even later, common fan theories and such were often referenced or used in the comic.

Kinda, kinda, kinda.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:07:16 PM by Bocaj

Well it has comets destroying the planet, at least three or four different universes, Nicolas Cage and Snoop Dogg, the Insane Clown Posse being elected the Presidents of the United States (still better than Trump), Guy Fieri as the third antichrist, a lot of references to Con Air, enough murder and revival from said murder to rival Dragon Ball and the Marvel and DC universes in death being cheap as fuck, and lots of references to Kraft mayo, Faygo, juggalos, and Betty Crocker, who apparently is an evil space witch queen.

Man, at least some things happened in Act 7. Deathly Hallows is like six hundred pages of the kids camping in the woods, having bullshit dramas, and then in the end Voldemort gets killed by what is essentially a ricocheting bullet and then the Plucky Comic Relief that wasn't in the movies sings a ridiculous song making fun of him, and that is the end of this seven-book, decade-long saga. Oh and also there's a fanfic.

Say what you will about Harry Potter and the Cursed Child but it was a hell of a lot better than Deathly Hallows.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:49:43 PM by ThriceCharming

I think Deathly Hallows was about as perfect of an ending to the saga as we could have gotten.

Spoilers.

Reading Deathly Hallows was what made me realize I just didn't like Harry Potter at all, anymore, so I can't exactly judge it.

(Most of the Thelema is by way of The Neverending Story or in interpretations of The Ultimate Riddle/Answer, which are speculative; Oh and I think the Arc Number insistence might also be a reference, potentially? I think it's a lot less obvious than the Gnostic themes, really, even not counting all the blatant Gnostic references in Denizen names and chat handles.)

Thelema doesn't seem like the kind of thing Andrew Hussie would be interested in, since it's something of a "constructed" spiritual model rather than one that grew organically, if that makes any sense.

It makes sense I guess but also I don't get your reasoning?

But it was a big thing in The Neverending Story which is definitely a big thing in Homestuck.

Addendum: I mean it's coherent but I don't know what you mean by, either part of it.

edited 23rd Jan '17 5:41:49 PM by RaichuKFM

@Raichu: You mentioned something happened in the thread, and I take it you might not want to talk about it, but if you do, you can PM me. It's nice to see you back.

@Homestuck: I like Homestuck, regardless of whether the ending was good or not, but I think the hiatuses slowly but gradually killed my interest. The thread, or better, the people in the thread, were always fun and the comic itself wasn't bad despite my loss of interest, so I remained. Besides, I needed to know how it'd end

I'd need to read through the books to see if I agree with that assessment, but everything I've heard about the plot to Cursed Child sounds like a horrid fanfic. And we already have two great badfics from Harry Potter.

My Immortal, and........?

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