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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:05:35 AM

I know Snow White is about as iconic as you can get for this trope, but the trope doesn't even look like her. It looks like some guy is selling a rope to Wonder Woman, honestly. If we're relying on myopia anyway, we should probably use the Disney version, or at least one that has the iconic apple and not... a rope.

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#2: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:14:17 AM

The queen is already on God Save Us from the Queen!. I don't know how to illustrate the "step" part of the trope.

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#3: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:18:13 AM

[up] That was my thought too...it needs something establishing the relationship.

Earnest Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:39:17 AM

How about Lady Tremaine and Cinderella?

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#5: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:42:11 AM

That looks like generic Abusive Parents to me (assuming that the old lady is a parent at all, step or no)

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:51:00 AM

Even so, I still think it's an improvement. Not great, but still better.

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Earnest Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:55:46 AM

We could combine the entire intro with a caption like "Widower. Remarries. Dies. Abuse."

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#8: Jun 4th 2013 at 7:05:11 AM

Eh. Seems like Just A Montage And A Caption, because there's no way I would've been able to tell what was happening at all from the images alone. Honestly just kinda looks like the woman in purple has been hunting down Cinderella's family.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#9: Jun 4th 2013 at 7:05:15 AM

I don't think we really need to establish that she's the stepmother. That's way too much going on. I think Cinderella is more iconic than Snow White because most people think of Lady Tremaine as the Wicked Stepmother and the Queen not so much, since at least in the Disney version it's All in the Manual.

At least we don't need the first frame.

edited 4th Jun '13 7:06:15 AM by Rethkir

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Jun 4th 2013 at 7:22:09 AM

Are we sure that the stepmother status is well-known enough? I don't think so.

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#11: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:03:19 AM

I think the Cinderella part is good, and it strikes me as one of the best-known fairy tales involving a stepmother.

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Earnest Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:25:52 AM

Please don't bite my head off for this one, it's my first genogram so it may not be 100% right.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#13: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:46:49 AM

[up] It looks very good. Any way to indicate that the father is deceased?

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redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#14: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:49:34 AM

Maybe add "widowed" above "2nd marriage"?

edited 4th Jun '13 9:49:59 AM by redhed311

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#15: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:01:44 AM

[up][up][up] I really like the concept of that, but I'd rework the bottom pic so it's larger...at that size Cinderella's face is doing something weird.

Is it bad that I want to caption that first pic in 4 as "Cinderella caught practicing for her first date."?

edited 4th Jun '13 10:01:57 AM by Willbyr

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#16: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:41:03 AM

I did some checking and the standard way of denoting a deceased person in a genogram is to put an X over their symbol, so I put one over Cinderella's mom and dad. (Also, marriages are supposed to go "down" to avoid confusion). I also went ahead and made her pic bigger and the font on "Abuse".

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#17: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:49:22 AM

[tup][down]

edited 4th Jun '13 3:19:59 PM by Rethkir

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Earnest Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:55:50 AM

This one's just playing with it a bit, making the bottom pic larger.

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#19: Jun 4th 2013 at 11:22:41 AM

Ooh, I like the concept. Whatever the definitive version looks like, it is likely to have my [tup].

Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#20: Jun 4th 2013 at 11:48:32 AM

I think the slightly bigger pic in 18 helps. [tup] to it from me.

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#22: Jun 9th 2013 at 12:00:13 PM

It's been almost a week and there seems to be broad support for 18. Should we put it up, or are there any more tweaks I can make?

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#23: Jun 9th 2013 at 12:47:27 PM

18 is absolutely great, and I doubt we will find something better, either in concept or execution.

Perhaps we might need more [tup]s, but as far as I am concerned, upload it.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#25: Jun 9th 2013 at 2:48:49 PM

There is definitely enough support for 18. It's up, potholed and tagged.

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