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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#251: Apr 3rd 2015 at 7:07:14 PM

.... I had honestly forgotten about that little detail.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#252: Apr 3rd 2015 at 7:18:56 PM

Eh, what you need to know is that it gets easier to perceive fast movement the faster you yourself are. By the Freeza saga, it takes a few minutes at the most to lap around the world at a leisure pace.

Though I like the effects they used to show Gogeta moving absurdly fast in Fusion Reborn, in which he just slides forward without making any actual movement, and the only thing we see is the result of his punches on Janemba. Also on Gogeta SSJ 4, who just stood still and sent Omega Shenron flying when he approached and had to slow down immensely so his movement could even be perceived (not reacted to in time, just perceived, since otherwise he looked like he just stood still).

edited 3rd Apr '15 7:19:35 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#253: Apr 4th 2015 at 4:46:27 PM

Hey, any info on how powerful the weakest Fusion Dance character is?

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#255: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:25:40 PM

I was thinking more of those Kai dudes that told/showed Goku about the earrings, actually, thinking that even fused, they would've been significantly weaker than Gotenks.

edited 4th Apr '15 5:26:09 PM by EvaUnit01

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#256: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:37:06 PM

Oh, I thought you just meant the dance. We never really see how strong he is. I would guess somwhere between SSJ 2 and SSJ 3

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#257: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:37:47 PM

Vegeta was walking through the laboratory of Capsule Corp, looking for Bulma. He needed her to increase the gravitational fields in his training room. Now that Kakarot's son was able to become a Super Saiyan 2, 100 times Earth's gravity was miserably insufficient for covering up the distance. He'd need that tripled, at least. And better robots. But when he sensed the woman's power level and took the left turn to a part of the lab he'd never seen before...Bulma was working on some sort of...armor. Not like his Saiyan armor, this was definitely more mechanical in nature.

"What...in all the cosmos, is this, woman?" Vegeta asked, and Bulma looked up from her work on the armor on the table, a soldering iron in one hand. She pulled off her goggles and wiped grease from her face with a rag, smirking.

"I've been thinking. With all the great martial artists I hang out with, and as smart as I am, I'm not helping nearly as much with the front lines as I could." Vegeta scoffed, raising an eyebrow.

"Woman, I think it is a little late to start training." He said with a chuckle, shaking his head. Even if she could get to the battle power of, say, the old pervert, that would be useless. And it was ludicrous to assume she could even do that. Bulma smirked, tapping the armor.

"That's what this is for. I've been analyzing Gero's schematics for the androids, especially 16, 17, and 18. Now I wasn't crazy about the idea of being a cyborg and having all those mechanical implants..." Vegeta snorted at "implants", and Bulma rolled her eyes. "Anyway," she continued, "I was able to work around the need for the internal mechanics into something more like an exoskeleton. Right now, the armor takes my natural ki, and amplifies it ten thousand fold. So, if I just train for a couple months and get my power level up to something like, a hundred-" Vegeta cut her off, eyes wide with sudden understand.

"You would have a power level of one million." Vegeta muttered in shock. That would be incredible. Bulma nodded eagerly, smiling brightly, amused by Vegeta's reaction. Vegeta...didn't smile. Vegeta never smiled. But he did...smirk. "Woman, I have never been more attracted to you than I am at this particular moment. We'll start training tomorrow."

edited 4th Apr '15 5:38:13 PM by SonOfSharknado

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#258: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:51:11 PM

...keep going...

edited 4th Apr '15 5:51:48 PM by EvaUnit01

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#259: Apr 4th 2015 at 6:15:12 PM

Wow.

Someone seized on the Powered Armour idea did they?

Not bad. Though I'm not sure if they could really create a device that can amplify Ki....

...but then again, Gero kinda changed the game really.

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#260: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:38:36 PM

Okay, soooo... I need some suggestions for a title for the MGLN x DBZ thing I'm working on.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#261: Apr 5th 2015 at 9:04:15 PM

Well... that's beyond me. I struggle enough for titles for my stuff as it is, and as you might've noticed.

I Am Not Creative Enough to come up with more.

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#262: Apr 5th 2015 at 9:21:05 PM

Okay. The TSAB is multidimensional, the PTO is not. So in all likelihood, the TSAB would stumble across the PTO well after both organizations have been established, which explains how you can have both of them without one wiping out the other in infancy.

Now, are you planning on setting this before or after the death of Freeza and Cold? And where are you planning on setting this timeline-wise in regards to Nanoha? Which characters do you want to get involved? Because if you wanted, you could easily write a story about the conflict between the TSAB and the PTO not involving any of the main characters. Or you could pull a "X is lost in the universe of Y, meets all the main characters of Y, and eventually gets back home with the help of Z."

Or you could go the fused universes route, in which the Jewel Seeds are lost in the world of Dragon Ball.

edited 5th Apr '15 9:22:35 PM by Hyp3rB14d3

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#264: Apr 5th 2015 at 10:19:22 PM

If Mid Childa were in the Freeza's organization's vicinity, it'd already be Planet Freeza 153 or Vacant Lot, because they would've made the mistake of pissing him right the hell off, and he would've responded with disproportionate violence.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#265: Apr 6th 2015 at 7:32:12 AM

What would Dragon Ball have been like if, instead of Frieza and his royal family, Darkseid and Apokolips (the planet, not the X-Men villain. That's Apocalypse) had played that role?

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#266: Apr 6th 2015 at 8:59:54 AM

Or you could go the fused universes route, in which the Jewel Seeds are lost in the world of Dragon Ball.
That is what I'm doing. Dragonball is the primary setting, with the MGLN universe merged into it.

Now, are you planning on setting this before or after the death of Freeza and Cold?
Initially before, but eventually after, as the story progresses.

And where are you planning on setting this timeline-wise in regards to Nanoha?
MGLN season 1 is set during the timeskip between the end of Dragon Ball and the beginning of Dragon Ball Z. A's is set around mid-way between the Saiyan incursions (i.e., a few months after Raditz, but wrapping up before Vegeta and Nappa arrive).

Which means that the equivalent of season 3 would happen somewhere around the Buu saga.

Because the DBZ verse is the main setting, the MGLN characters get to benefit from the same outrageous power curve as the DBZ cast, so long as they train hard enough under the right circumstances. That said, even though I'm nerfing the DBZ cast's speed and fudging relative power levels on the MGLN side for the sake of keeping things interesting, I honestly don't think that any of the MGLN cast would be able to keep up with the Saiyans by the time of the Buu saga. ....except, perhaps, if Nanoha and Signum do the Fusion Dance.

Which characters do you want to get involved? Because if you wanted, you could easily write a story about the conflict between the TSAB and the PTO not involving any of the main characters.
Derping on who the PTO is, but I'm planning on using pretty much all the main characters when the right opportunities come into play. In particular, I'd like give a bit more spotlight Krillin, Yuuno, and Chrono, and Precia also has an expanded role compared to the original canon.

That said, the TSAB largely stays the hell away from the Milky Way (where the Planetary Trade Organization is) until after Future Trunks comes in to stomp Freeza and Cold. (exception: Chrono flies out alone in a three-person subspace cruiser so he can drag Precia, Fate, and Arf back to TSAB space for trial)

The TSAB has infinitely superior space travel/exploration technology, since the PTO doesn't seem to know about subspace, but of course they don't have nearly the kind of heavy-hitters that the PTO does.

Or you could pull a "X is lost in the universe of Y, meets all the main characters of Y, and eventually gets back home with the help of Z."
That's the premise of the other MGLN thing I started in that thread last week, but with four different values for [x].

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For lack of a better idea, for the time being I'll call the project, "Dragonball N".

edited 6th Apr '15 9:01:22 AM by EvaUnit01

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#267: Apr 6th 2015 at 10:02:42 AM

Important note: So long as they are human, the MGLN characters will eventually hit the ceiling of human power. Krillin, the strongest human ever, hit a ceiling of 75,000 BP. At that point, he'd fit right to the Ginyu Force, the five strongest enforcers of Freeza's empire... but considering that at relatively the same time Goku has a base power of 3,000,000 and five years old Gohan has a powerlevel of over two hundred thousand...

Suffice to say, it might be best to stick to Dragon Ball and very early Dragon Ball Z. The TSAB wouldn't stay around once Freeza became a thing, if only because they'd drop their fudge at the guy who makes Reinforce look positively wimpy.

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#268: Apr 6th 2015 at 12:35:15 PM

Why not to use the Dragon Ball Evolution universe instea— (ducks).

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#269: Apr 6th 2015 at 1:43:11 PM

Because that universe is dumb and should never have existed, that's why.

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#270: Apr 6th 2015 at 2:30:13 PM

Ultimately, in the long term, it's still going to come down to "stall for time until Goku gets here!". Everyone is just going to be a bit better at doing that.

edited 6th Apr '15 2:59:30 PM by EvaUnit01

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#271: Apr 6th 2015 at 5:46:39 PM

You know, Madoka's Starlight Breaker basically functions just like the spirit bomb. You could actually have Goku stalling for time while someone else charges the finishing attack (for once).

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#272: Apr 6th 2015 at 7:01:00 PM

I do know that, and have made that very point... somewhere. Maybe it was in the MGLN thread, maybe in a PM to some other guy on ffnet.

Also, Madoka isn't in this fic. Nanoha is.

edited 6th Apr '15 7:01:50 PM by EvaUnit01

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#273: Apr 6th 2015 at 9:20:17 PM

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They work on the same principle, but the Starlight breaker sucks up the leftover ambient energy used during a fight, while the Spirit bomb takes energy from any living thing, (arguably including leftover energy, though it's never been said if he does't that or not).

As powerful as Starlight Breaker is, I'm not sure if it gets as much power as the Spirit Bomb.

I wonder if Goku could teach her to draw from living things as well?

I wonder if Nanoha could help Goku figure out how to draw on leftover energy in the air during a fight?

Which would be more broken?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#274: Apr 6th 2015 at 9:32:53 PM

The Spirit Bomb takes longer to charge but it's significantly more powerful. Case in point:

The Spirit Bomb is what pushed Goku into Planet Buster territory. Misfiring it on Earth would've destroyed the planet. Heck, even after the Spirit Bomb lost most of its power, it was still almost able to put down Vegeta, who by then was at Planet Buster level himself, and while he was battered already, Vegeta's toughness is actually consistently insane, and he is the character who takes the most punishment in the entire series.

Goku wouldn't be able to drain energy during a fight, he can't multitask because he doesn't have an Intelligent Device. Similarly, Nanoha can't drain living people because, well, that's not what Starlight Breaker does. Creating a spell that does drain living beings to pour their energy into a single attack, however, might be possible.

edited 6th Apr '15 9:35:36 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#275: Apr 7th 2015 at 8:19:11 PM

[up][up][up]Well, looks like I've been hanging around the Puella Magi threads in Sufficient Velocity a bit too much...


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