Eh, what you need to know is that it gets easier to perceive fast movement the faster you yourself are. By the Freeza saga, it takes a few minutes at the most to lap around the world at a leisure pace.
Though I like the effects they used to show Gogeta moving absurdly fast in Fusion Reborn, in which he just slides forward without making any actual movement, and the only thing we see is the result of his punches on Janemba. Also on Gogeta SSJ 4, who just stood still and sent Omega Shenron flying when he approached and had to slow down immensely so his movement could even be perceived (not reacted to in time, just perceived, since otherwise he looked like he just stood still).
edited 3rd Apr '15 7:19:35 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariHey, any info on how powerful the weakest Fusion Dance character is?
Do you mean Gotenks?
I was thinking more of those Kai dudes that told/showed Goku about the earrings, actually, thinking that even fused, they would've been significantly weaker than Gotenks.
edited 4th Apr '15 5:26:09 PM by EvaUnit01
"What...in all the cosmos, is this, woman?" Vegeta asked, and Bulma looked up from her work on the armor on the table, a soldering iron in one hand. She pulled off her goggles and wiped grease from her face with a rag, smirking.
"I've been thinking. With all the great martial artists I hang out with, and as smart as I am, I'm not helping nearly as much with the front lines as I could." Vegeta scoffed, raising an eyebrow.
"Woman, I think it is a little late to start training." He said with a chuckle, shaking his head. Even if she could get to the battle power of, say, the old pervert, that would be useless. And it was ludicrous to assume she could even do that. Bulma smirked, tapping the armor.
"That's what this is for. I've been analyzing Gero's schematics for the androids, especially 16, 17, and 18. Now I wasn't crazy about the idea of being a cyborg and having all those mechanical implants..." Vegeta snorted at "implants", and Bulma rolled her eyes. "Anyway," she continued, "I was able to work around the need for the internal mechanics into something more like an exoskeleton. Right now, the armor takes my natural ki, and amplifies it ten thousand fold. So, if I just train for a couple months and get my power level up to something like, a hundred-" Vegeta cut her off, eyes wide with sudden understand.
"You would have a power level of one million." Vegeta muttered in shock. That would be incredible. Bulma nodded eagerly, smiling brightly, amused by Vegeta's reaction. Vegeta...didn't smile. Vegeta never smiled. But he did...smirk. "Woman, I have never been more attracted to you than I am at this particular moment. We'll start training tomorrow."
edited 4th Apr '15 5:38:13 PM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.edited 4th Apr '15 5:51:48 PM by EvaUnit01
Wow.
Someone seized on the Powered Armour idea did they?
Not bad. Though I'm not sure if they could really create a device that can amplify Ki....
...but then again, Gero kinda changed the game really.
One Strip! One Strip!Okay, soooo... I need some suggestions for a title for the MGLN x DBZ thing I'm working on.
Well... that's beyond me. I struggle enough for titles for my stuff as it is, and as you might've noticed.
I Am Not Creative Enough to come up with more.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariOkay. The TSAB is multidimensional, the PTO is not. So in all likelihood, the TSAB would stumble across the PTO well after both organizations have been established, which explains how you can have both of them without one wiping out the other in infancy.
Now, are you planning on setting this before or after the death of Freeza and Cold? And where are you planning on setting this timeline-wise in regards to Nanoha? Which characters do you want to get involved? Because if you wanted, you could easily write a story about the conflict between the TSAB and the PTO not involving any of the main characters. Or you could pull a "X is lost in the universe of Y, meets all the main characters of Y, and eventually gets back home with the help of Z."
Or you could go the fused universes route, in which the Jewel Seeds are lost in the world of Dragon Ball.
edited 5th Apr '15 9:22:35 PM by Hyp3rB14d3
If Mid Childa were in the Freeza's organization's vicinity, it'd already be Planet Freeza 153 or Vacant Lot, because they would've made the mistake of pissing him right the hell off, and he would've responded with disproportionate violence.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariWhat would Dragon Ball have been like if, instead of Frieza and his royal family, Darkseid and Apokolips (the planet, not the X-Men villain. That's Apocalypse) had played that role?
Which means that the equivalent of season 3 would happen somewhere around the Buu saga.
Because the DBZ verse is the main setting, the MGLN characters get to benefit from the same outrageous power curve as the DBZ cast, so long as they train hard enough under the right circumstances. That said, even though I'm nerfing the DBZ cast's speed and fudging relative power levels on the MGLN side for the sake of keeping things interesting, I honestly don't think that any of the MGLN cast would be able to keep up with the Saiyans by the time of the Buu saga. ....except, perhaps, if Nanoha and Signum do the Fusion Dance.
That said, the TSAB largely stays the hell away from the Milky Way (where the Planetary Trade Organization is) until after Future Trunks comes in to stomp Freeza and Cold. (exception: Chrono flies out alone in a three-person subspace cruiser so he can drag Precia, Fate, and Arf back to TSAB space for trial)
The TSAB has infinitely superior space travel/exploration technology, since the PTO doesn't seem to know about subspace, but of course they don't have nearly the kind of heavy-hitters that the PTO does.
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For lack of a better idea, for the time being I'll call the project, "Dragonball N".
edited 6th Apr '15 9:01:22 AM by EvaUnit01
Important note: So long as they are human, the MGLN characters will eventually hit the ceiling of human power. Krillin, the strongest human ever, hit a ceiling of 75,000 BP. At that point, he'd fit right to the Ginyu Force, the five strongest enforcers of Freeza's empire... but considering that at relatively the same time Goku has a base power of 3,000,000 and five years old Gohan has a powerlevel of over two hundred thousand...
Suffice to say, it might be best to stick to Dragon Ball and very early Dragon Ball Z. The TSAB wouldn't stay around once Freeza became a thing, if only because they'd drop their fudge at the guy who makes Reinforce look positively wimpy.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariWhy not to use the Dragon Ball Evolution universe instea— (ducks).
Because that universe is dumb and should never have existed, that's why.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariUltimately, in the long term, it's still going to come down to "stall for time until Goku gets here!". Everyone is just going to be a bit better at doing that.
edited 6th Apr '15 2:59:30 PM by EvaUnit01
You know, Madoka's Starlight Breaker basically functions just like the spirit bomb. You could actually have Goku stalling for time while someone else charges the finishing attack (for once).
I do know that, and have made that very point... somewhere. Maybe it was in the MGLN thread, maybe in a PM to some other guy on ffnet.
Also, Madoka isn't in this fic. Nanoha is.
edited 6th Apr '15 7:01:50 PM by EvaUnit01
They work on the same principle, but the Starlight breaker sucks up the leftover ambient energy used during a fight, while the Spirit bomb takes energy from any living thing, (arguably including leftover energy, though it's never been said if he does't that or not).
As powerful as Starlight Breaker is, I'm not sure if it gets as much power as the Spirit Bomb.
I wonder if Goku could teach her to draw from living things as well?
I wonder if Nanoha could help Goku figure out how to draw on leftover energy in the air during a fight?
Which would be more broken?
One Strip! One Strip!The Spirit Bomb takes longer to charge but it's significantly more powerful. Case in point:
The Spirit Bomb is what pushed Goku into Planet Buster territory. Misfiring it on Earth would've destroyed the planet. Heck, even after the Spirit Bomb lost most of its power, it was still almost able to put down Vegeta, who by then was at Planet Buster level himself, and while he was battered already, Vegeta's toughness is actually consistently insane, and he is the character who takes the most punishment in the entire series.
Goku wouldn't be able to drain energy during a fight, he can't multitask because he doesn't have an Intelligent Device. Similarly, Nanoha can't drain living people because, well, that's not what Starlight Breaker does. Creating a spell that does drain living beings to pour their energy into a single attack, however, might be possible.
edited 6th Apr '15 9:35:36 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariWell, looks like I've been hanging around the Puella Magi threads in Sufficient Velocity a bit too much...
.... I had honestly forgotten about that little detail.