Kill La Kill

Technically, isn't Fanservice a broad enough term that huge abs and GINORMOUS EXPLOSIONS count?

Because I know I love me some Destruction Porn.

'Fanservice' is anything meant to please the fans. Basically, any form of pandering to your target demographic is fanservice.

Therefore, Kyo Ani is the greatest source of fanservice in existence

Male or female, fanservice is fanservice, whether they give a reason for it or not. I'm just calling it what it is.

We are talking about sexual fansevice. Muscle men are not a sexual fantasy they are a power fantasy.

....That was weak. Look I designed a character with a sexist appearance but, it is fine as I portray their character in a decent way some of the times. If there is an in character reason for them to wear that kind of uniform that isn't just an excuse then fine. It is obvious that they made up the excuse for less covering Kamui after the fact.

I think we're approaching a topic we shouldn't touch.

This song could apply to Senketsu. More AMV's need to be made with this song.

And if Senketsu and Junketsu were designed to be arousing before they were conceived to be living alien parasitic clothing...

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no, it still doesn't make sense, there'd be more comfortable, sexy, clever ways of doing that. The Stripperiffic page is chock-full of examples of costumes that are way more revealing and/or sexy than the Twoketsu. The twoketsu are heavily designed to carry a sense of power and remind us of mecha. They're jagged, they seem obviously uncomfortable and jarring and unnatural.

No, this isn't like Strike Witches, where the idea was "let's have a show about prepubescent girls wearing no trousers, and then let's justify it with a genuinely interesting plot and likeable characters and so on".

I mean if you started with the premise that "okay these uniforms are dangerous to wear and feed off neural energy from your skin." where would you place the fabric in the uniform?

Muscle men can be both types of fantasy depending on the context.

The thing with this show is that its interpretation of "fanservice" is so nuanced that it hits many many definitions, interpretations and contexts of the word.

I have trouble seeing how "make it look like a mecha" becomes the torso design on the two kamuis. The shoulders? Sure, I can see it. But not the weird suspenders/boob-slot thing they have going on.

My take on it was that they were designed specifically to look uncomfortable to wear and leave almost nothing to the imagination, probably mostly as a joke or for the whole letting-go-of-embarrassment thing, but at least partially for the sex appeal. Then they worked out the surface-area justification later (The fact that it actually makes sense is an added bonus there). I have no idea if that's been contradicted by official word, it's just what I assumed happened.

You'd be kidding yourself if you thought that no-one involved here said, "Excellent, these designs will also help us cash in that sweet nerd boner money" at some point.

edited 11th Aug '14 5:51:05 PM by gaunt88

Ain't nuthin' wrong with THAT. There's a sucker born every minute, man. Go see the Egress.

On the spine, the hands, the nipples, the genitalia, the neck, throat, and face, especially skull and lips and nose and even eyes, and the feet, especially the toes. I would avoid the back outside of the spine. The stomach is a toss-up depending on whether the neural system around the digestive tracts counts for this purpose.

The end result would be very strange, especially the parts covering parts of the face and skull. But the end designs still kinda make sense from this perspective, especially how they basically tightly cover everything except the lower back, the buttocks and upper tighs, and the abdomen.

edited 11th Aug '14 6:10:51 PM by TheHandle

If being naked while showing your body all muscular isn't suppose to be sexy in any way, I don't know what is.

edited 11th Aug '14 6:57:03 PM by AfroWarrior27

Satsuki, Ryuko, Nonon, Ragyo and Nui would have a fairly athletic builds in real life but I am not sure about the other characters.

The problem is higurashimerlin claiming the Male elite four aren't sexualized in any way, which is simply untrue.

edited 11th Aug '14 9:57:24 PM by AfroWarrior27

What is he talking about? Gamagoori is a sadomasochist, I get some serious phallus references from Sanageyama and Imumuta wouldn't look out of place in a shoujo manga.

If I'm reading it correctly, their argument is basically "the male fanservice isn't fanservice because they're men".

They must be swift as the coursing river...

This is why I said we shouldn't talk about iiiitt.

Course we can! Someone has to question this Double Standard logic.

edited 12th Aug '14 7:22:34 AM by AfroWarrior27

At least until the mods come in.

Finally did get to seeing Episode 22.

That worthless Nui screaming when she saw her arms ripped off and destroyed was awesome!

Though, now that it's been a while, I feel as if I didn't contribute anything positive to the discussion during the show's run, and I do want to apoligize. However, I hope you are all aware that there are aware that some people will put Nui and Ragyo in the same camp as unlikable and unfun villains and are okay with me not liking either one.

edited 12th Aug '14 9:03:58 AM by JDogindy

That's alright.

I DON'T like Nui. Always got a serious Villain Sue vibe from her.

Unlike Mako's invocations of the Toon-Force, which were funny and lighthearted, Nui always seemed as if she would fit better in a Crossover between My Little Pony and The Cthulhu Mythos.

I can see where you're coming from.

Let's review that scene for our pleasure:

Muda da!

Ora!

Ora!

Ryuuko is channeling the Joestar Bloodline here :P

That was the big wham moment where the Gurren BrigadeNudists attained momentum and gained the initiative, and despite setbacks, they never lost it from then on. Oh, what a ride! It's like back when Simon showed showed up to defend the Arch!

edited 12th Aug '14 9:30:52 AM by TheHandle

Can't help but wonder if they gave Nui those massive pigtails specifically so they'd cover up the ends of her stumps in this scene.

Are you kidding me? Mako and Nui have they same type of cartooney humor expect Nui is a lot darker which makes sense given the dark things she done.

And I already made my counter statement to the Villain Sue argument before, so I don't feel like getting into that again.

edited 12th Aug '14 9:53:53 AM by AfroWarrior27

Never saw Nui as much of a Villain Sue honestly, just someone extremely hatable. Which I guess was the point.

Kudos to Trigger, they managed to make a pair of villains who are so evil, that everyone wanted to see them dead and suffer.

It's a nice aversion of Evil Is Cool.

edited 12th Aug '14 10:27:22 AM by BlackYakuzu94