Finding Dory

The Angler Fish also didn't talk.

Could it be Pixar's biggest opening weekend yet?

Unfortunate fate for blue tang, in the same way the first movie did for clownfish. I hope theaters play a disclaimer before the film asking people to leave the fish alone.

Since Finding Nemo and this film are about why fish SHOULDN'T be kept in captivity I hope they listen to the movie XD;

80% on RT & 77 on Metacritic…

That is just out of six reviews. (It's at 83% on RT as of now, another positive review turned up.) It's still also higher than The Good Dinosaur for both things.

My prediction is that it'll wind up in the mid-80s at the very least, low 90s at the best. At least just enough to be "Certified Fresh".

For what it's worth, it's also higher than Brave & Monsters University.

ETA: 93% now. This is better than I expected.

edited 11th Jun '16 7:17:14 AM by Spinosegnosaurus77

According to this week's Entertainment Weekly the story director got really mad at one point and yelled that Dory is a tragic character. they weren't sure if she'd be well-received as a dramatic character but felt it worked well.

The first scene of the movie is a young Dory trying frantically to find her family in the ocean. :(

edited 11th Jun '16 11:41:14 AM by lalalei2001

Said scene is in the last trailer.

Fun fact: its scores on RT & Metacritic are both exactly one spot above A Bug's Life.

Yes! Thank the good lord that Pixar didn't screw up the Finding Nemo sequel. I'm gonna try to pester my family into going to see it.

I am torn: Finding Nemo is still my favorite animation film of all time and I really want to see the sequel. However for some reason it will take until late September for Finding Dory to be released in Germany. I could watch it 3 weeks from now in English in the Netherlands but I watched Nemo in German as a kid and I kinda prefer Anke Engelke as Dory and also associate the other character with their German voices.

edited 14th Jun '16 7:25:51 AM by Kiefen

Wow that's awful. Night the fact that you can't see this til September, and that people ignore the basic message of the film. I was able to see some blue tang when I went scuba diving last week; I wonder if that'll change

Some critics are calling the film a Sequelitit though. It might turn out a Contested Sequel at most.

The general consensus right now seems to be that it's not as good as the first one, but still enjoyable.

At least right now it doesn't seem to be Monsters University levels of "not-as-good-as-the-first". Right now it still has 95% on RT. Only two reviews out of 35 were rotten.

Looks like the sequel has ended up doing justice to the original. That's really encouraging.

Still, I'm worried that the film will end up having an anti-captivity message, as the filmmakers said tat the story was influenced by Blackfish (a documentary that I'm not exactly a fan of).

Why not?

In case of Dory's species, and anti-captivity message is the best thing the movie can hope for. Clownfish surged in popularity after Nemo, even though a recurring theme in Nemo was "fish weren't meant to live in tanks". Clownfish can be bred in captivity, so that wasn't so bad. You can just increase breeding efforts, but blue tang can only be obtained via capture from the wild.

If captivity is so stressful for an animal that they can't mate, captivity obviously isn't healthy for that animal.

The movie is still holding steady at 94% on the Tomato-meter. Only four Rotten reviews out of 77 currently.

This is looking good so far.

EDIT: R.T. Consensus reached:

"Funny, poignant, and thought-provoking, Finding Dory delivers a beautifully animated adventure that adds another entertaining chapter to its predecessor's classic story."

Apparently, any similarities that the movie has to the previous film don't detract from the overall experience, if that's any indication.

edited 16th Jun '16 2:25:55 PM by kablammin45

Bit of a late response, but the reason I'm not a fan of Blackfish in the slightest stems from its incredibly one-sided point of view, and the fact that I feel that it romanticizes the wild and orcas way too much. Heck, they completely ignore the fact that Keiko, an orca Sea World did indeed release and be placed in a sea pen, failed to adjust to life in the wild. Moreover, the film tries to guilt-trip people who enjoy going to the park, and focuses mainly on appealing to emotion rather than reason. So yeah, not a fan, nor am I a fan of how it has influenced social media or peoples' views on animal captivity (though I agree with the point it made that the orcas need more room). And I gotta say that the quote the filmmakers of this film made, "After seeing Blackfish, they retooled the film so that the sea creatures now have the choice to leave that marine park. They told Gabriela [Cowperthwaite] they didn't want to look back on this film in 50 years and have it be their Song of the South", is absolutely laughable.

Back to Finding Dory, I am glad that it is getting such high acclaim. Good to know that Pixar still has it in them.

edited 17th Jun '16 2:13:07 AM by LDragon2

Not so sure how to take this interpretation. You're trying to say the orcas don't really have it too bad at Sea World? I know there are always two sides to a coin but I thought they did present the other side by showing how most of the trainers really cared for the orcas, but said trainers themselves eventually admitted that they would probably have been happier in the wild, and they couldn't tell if the orcas listened to their commands because they liked their human trainers or if they just wanted food. And it wasn't just showing how unfortunate it was for the orcas, one of the highlights of the documentary was to show how many trainers had been attacked and even killed by the orcas, regardless how well they'd gotten along beforehand. The main orca of the documentary had killed three trainers and he still remains at Sea World to this day.

I don't recall what they said about releasing them, and it would probably be true that some wouldn't make it in the wild, but that would probably go for the ones born and bred in captivity, many of the orcas were caught in the wild, the main one of the documentary included. Even for the ones failing to adapt to the wild, however, I would find it a better fate for them to have a taste of freedom at last than to spend their whole life inside a bathtub. Though like you said, the very least they could do is create a bigger area for the captive ones, but it would still have to be a pretty massive pool to have the orcas feel comfortable.

Your talking about Tilikum right? Yeah that Sea World Orca is pretty mentally unstable.....and I am pretty sure it's partly due to his captivity but it also is partly due to his genetics.

Some Orcas have killed before yes but not as much as Tilikum has....

edited 17th Jun '16 3:52:30 AM by Ecrivan

For that matter, has a wild orca killed a human?

Keiko's problem was that he couldn't adjust to the wild because of being raised in captivity. He was first captured at age 3. The whole story is really sad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiko_%28orca%29

EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaWorld#Killer_whales

edited 17th Jun '16 5:39:58 AM by lalalei2001