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I literally never saw a single one.

It's an easy way to get an avatar for something.

Easier than trawling for art, that is.

Most of them are in forum games, and I don't think you're over there, so that's probably why.

edited 17th Apr '15 8:20:56 PM by ramuf

I know that there's a couple character creators used around WAAPT to give a visual reference for characters, and those are the ones I've used before (mainly one from Rinmaru)

I don't understand why people take the Forum Games so seriously. They're games. They're supposed to be fun.

If you feel that people are being passive-aggressive you should Holler them, preferably with a note explaining why (if it's unclear) that post is an attack against someone. We do look at all Hollers, even though not all of our investigations result in an action.

"X is a c-word" is not worse or better than "a certain individual who resembles X is a c-word". It's still making things personal. "[Group X belongs to] are all c-words" isn't any better, either. If you see posts like these you should Holler.

Passive-aggressiveness is not acceptable. I know that we (like any site) have people who do that; but don't take that as a sign that such behaviour is OK. It's just that they haven't been brought to our attention yet, or we're figuring out the best way to get them to stop.

A bit of an odd one: I've noticed there's a group of people in the Playing With side of the wiki who have their own community, but we never much talk with one another except now and then.

We probably should talk more, really.

Yes dollmaker avatars are easy to get/make, also customization is fun, a picture of me would be too personal but a cartoon avatar I made to look like me is less so, and since not everyone can draw free hand very well, dollmakers.

Perhaps it's not so much an observation on the Wiki more so than it is works classified in the wiki. You ever notice how works that fall on the harder end of the Mohs Scale Of Scifi Hardness tend to lean more on the serious end of the Sliding Scaleof Silliness Versus Seriousness , whereas those on the softer side tend to be less serious?

edited 23rd Apr '15 6:58:46 PM by ParadoxialStratagem

That's because accurate science in a silly work is usually wasted effort. It would just get in the way of the fun. They may have obscure references or use sudden realism for comedic effect ("You can't probe a nebula by sending someone out on a bicycle to feel it! The torque of the pedalling would upset their navigation!").

And while it is entirely possible for softer science fiction to be serious, a certain amount of silliness can cue to the audience that they shouldn't bother with how things work.

I dunno, at least in the former case, Futurama pretty heavily tries for scientific accuracy a lot of the time.

I get it, Whovians, everyone is fucking Time Lord!

Jesus Christ...

Is that gag WMG really still thrown around?

YES.

It stopped being funny almost half a decade ago.

Thank God, at least that bloody Haruhi WMG is now dead.

edited 30th Apr '15 10:48:11 AM by dRoy

Mostly because who even cares about that show anymore

It was really, really, really big a while ago, I remember. Nobody would stop talking about it. Why? I've never watched it but everyone was calling it the greatest thing since mocha fudge ice cream and then suddenly it just vanished.

edited 30th Apr '15 10:07:47 PM by WonderSquid

Basically there was a particular arc called 'Endless Eight' which just meant quite a few stopped caring half way through, and many more dropped it after that.

And then there are those who couldn't give a crap about amine to begin with

Haruhi was pones before there there were pones. Everyone had a Haruhi avatar and all the WMGs were Haruhi and the pages were ridiculously long to the point where people just had to be shoehorning tropes for the sake of making the trope page bigger and there was an example for it everywhere on the wiki.

I think those last two might still be true though.

edited 30th Apr '15 10:17:51 PM by WonderSquid

I didn't know that was a thing.

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Before ponies, it was Haruhi, and before Haruhi, it was Dr Who, and before Dr Who, it was probably the Beatles, although the only thing sparing us from seeing Beatles WMGs all over the damn site was because neither this site nor the Internet existed at the same time as the hordes of fans in their heyday. There is nothing new under the sun, and fads will rise and fall as new media supplant the old, so enjoy your works in moderation, don't shove them into people's faces for shoehorning's sake, and don't get smug because you think your fandom is better than someone else's.

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As for the WMGs and the entries... well, if they're not inaccurate (for entries), there's no reason to remove them from the page, and there's even less of a reason to remove WMGs as per the Programme Note. I don't think you can just expect them to fade away even after interest has died out.

edited 1st May '15 3:16:16 AM by Pyrite

This place always seems to be a huge time sink for me.

edited 1st May '15 3:30:59 AM by The_Mattias

Sir, you deserve a Forum Win.

And not just for you.

I agree with everything there except with the 'nothing new under the sun' bit. I've always felt that phrase was a cop-out that did not took into account extraordinary developments (in terms of sound, color and technology) in music and film.

It's also a cop-out because it excuses people from having to acknowledge their own failures, creatively-wise, and for not innovating or trying to innovate.

edited 1st May '15 7:07:01 AM by Quag15

The media and technology may change, but our reactions are pretty predictable, and have been so for as long as people have had causes to support. (Given the phrase's origins, I'm fairly sure technological advancements weren't what the writer had in mind.)

edited 1st May '15 7:26:26 AM by Pyrite

I can tell you lot don't indeed care about "amine". If you did you would know that a Haruhi spin-off has just started airing.

The thing about "X is a timelord" is that it started off with some creative justifications (see the one for Batman) but very quickly was copypasted as just "One or more characters is a timelord" onto every existing WMG page. It was not a failure of common sense (WMG is no place for that) but of imagination.

Anyone remember the fad for shepherd mosaics that swept through Rome around the second century?