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Isn't Canada in a similar situation?
Eclipse the Moon
Crap.
Does the Moon have internet lodging :P?
I'm having to learn to pay the price
Canada might shift in 2015, if not I'm moving to a part of Europe that hasn't been taken over by the far-right.
...The number of havens for a center-left English speaker are starting to thin.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
The Wanderer
There's not really anywhere to run if you're an Anglophone.
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Then it turned out the bookcase was too big for the office. So he had a second, smaller one built. At a higher cost.
That reminds me of this weeks Mad As Hell. YOU'VE GOT TO MEASURE IT IN SWIMMING POOLS.
edited 27th Feb '14 5:03:03 PM by IraTheSquire
What if Scotland secedes?
@Pipping Fool
A few things that might cheer you up.
Abbott is supposedly the least popular PM in 25 years
, while Labor is rising in popularity.
The entire state of Western Australia must re-elect its Federal Senate members due to the AEC screwing up, leading to possible reduction of the Coalition's power.
A re-election could put one of the Liberal's seats in doubt. If the Liberal Party were to lose a seat at the re-election, it would weaken the government's position in the Senate and strengthen the hand of the alliance of minor parties that has developed around the Palmer United Party.
Alternatively the Liberal Party could maintain its support from last September, and possibly turn the election into a referendum on repeal of the carbon and mining taxes.
Sierra 117
The Anglosphere is screwed. We all embraced neo-liberalism and look where it's gotten us.
I am cautiously optimistic about Labor. There are a few rising stars, but Shorten hasn't performed as well as I hoped, and there's still a lot of dead wood there (Conroy). One of Labor's strengths is it can point to a front bench of very capable people.
"We now cross to Vice Rear Admiral Bobo Gargle..."
edited 27th Feb '14 5:34:42 PM by medicus
It's not over. Not yet.
And Lois Cost reporting.
Handy-Dandy Chord Finder
Fuck... Cuts to the ABC, cuts to welfare, cuts to everything in the damn country, while millionaires are paid $75000 to have a child. That's the wrong way, you're meant to tax rich people, not give them handouts. Tax them, because you know... they can afford to fracking pay.
Trying to get Austrailia out of debt is shit as well. Look at all the countries in the modern world that have no debt... I can't think of any others than... China! Look how much the government serves and helps the people there! We gotta be just like China because 'Debt is toxic and not fair dinkum.' Conservatives and right-wingers are a bunch of fucking stooges who only ever get into power by tricking stupid people.
"I thought Djent was just a band" -Physical Stamina
Wandering Jew
After searching the Internet, the only debtless nations I could find were Brunei, Liechtenstein, and Palau.
All of which are very tiny nations.
edited 1st Mar '14 1:25:35 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Eclipse the Moon
And that's why fighting over debt is meaningless, because debt is essentially meaningless.
I'm having to learn to pay the price
HGW XX/7
Guardian Australia has footage of the Manus island unrest last week. Chilling stuff.
Schild und Schwert der Partei
Sierra 117
Boy do I love the Coalition's debate strategy.
Labor: *says anything*
Coalition: WELL WHY DON'T YOU ABOLISH THE CARBON TAX?! HURR DE HURR HURR!!!
It's not over. Not yet.
Handy-Dandy Chord Finder
You're sure right about that. Q&A's just starting, I wonder how many times I'll hear that.
I think the point still stands, despite being poorly researched. If a government is to be body that provides help and assistance to its citizens, then it must either tax the pants off its citizens, or go into debt.
National debt never hurt anybody, lack of welfare did.
EDIT: One carbon tax already in the first 5 minutes.
That's two in not much more time... Fuck these stupid shock jocks.
edited 3rd Mar '14 2:52:53 AM by CardsOfWar
"I thought Djent was just a band" -Physical Stamina
Eclipse the Moon
If it wasn't for the fact "Manus Island" was attached to that, I would be horrified. But Nauru, Manus a Christamas Island were always slaughterhouses waiting to happen so.
I'm more horrified by the fact the damn practice is both defended and considered vital to "Australian Boarder Protection". Shit like this should be called out for the racist, xenophobic, inhumane cack it is. But it's Australia so it doesn't matter.
I'm having to learn to pay the price
Happy New Year!
I'm just worried how much of our public health and education is gonna be left atferwards
Sierra 117
Tony Abbott finds portrait of Queen for his office.
Tony Abbott is proof there is no God.
At least, not a merciful one.
It's not over. Not yet.
... So, uh... the reasons why the logging industry isn't currently allowed to go nuts in those habitats is a little lost on him, then.
Great: that's most of Tasmania slipping into the ocean thanks to erosion, then. <_<
Never Trust
Jog my memory, didn't Tasmania have severe problems due to overlogging in the past?
Trump delenda est
Yup. Hence my pointing out the erosion. <_<
The forest there needs very careful management, or... hello depleted moorland (if you're lucky).
Never Trust
So, knowing, presumably, that deforestation led to disaster once Abbot wants to do it again? He really is a moron, isn't he?
edited 6th Mar '14 10:00:49 AM by tricksterson
Trump delenda est
Sierra 117
I think Abbott is intelligent, I don't think you become a Rhodes scholar if you're stupid.
Unfortunately he still clings to liberal ideology i.e. the natural world is a resource for humans to use, and the free market will solve any related problems — that's why he's calling foresters the "ultimate conservationists."
Or it might be his religion that makes him see it that way. In either case, he's wrong, and it's future generations that will pay the price.
edited 6th Mar '14 2:48:47 PM by medicus
It's not over. Not yet.
I think Abbott is a perfect example of there being no functional difference between not having intelligence and having intelligence and not using it.
Rhodes scholar or not, the way Abbott acts is just stupid. The way he just assumed Indonesia would jump through hoops to accommodate his weird asylum seeker policy is probably the best example.
Howard was a very smart conservative political operator. Abbott is not. I'm sure Abbott's a great essayist or whatever, but that's not what his job requires.
if this government gets more than one term, im moving to canada.
I'm having to learn to pay the price