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Deadlock Clock: Aug 2nd 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1: Feb 28th 2013 at 6:33:09 AM

I'm pretty sure this is a trope, but it has all of one example. It didn't go through YKTTW either and the only reason I found it was during cleanup of another trope.

I recommend we cut this and send it back through YKTTW.

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#2: Feb 28th 2013 at 6:53:08 AM

Actually, Arda, The Commander 236 has an identical trope going in the YKTTW section titled "Afraid Of Doctors" where it has already garnered about ten examples, and a couple of Hats. If I knew how to link to things better, I would. Sorry about that.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Feb 28th 2013 at 7:04:29 AM

That trope is kind of different. It should probably be expanded upon.

edited 28th Feb '13 7:05:13 AM by Arha

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#4: Feb 28th 2013 at 8:04:11 AM

When I first saw the title, what I thought of was something I sometimes see is shows about Ye Olden Days (1930's and earlier) where there is always some country boy or old person that doesn't trust them city doctors with all their book learnin and such and would rather stick to old fashion home remedies. Of maybe someone he had lost a relative who was being cared for by a doctor and thinks they are all quacks.

I run across it a lot in shows like the radio version of Gunsmoke but danged if I can remember any examples specific enough to describe in detail on a trope page.

I think we should consider merging the concepts and make a general trope about characters that refuse, for whatever reason, to seek out professional medical treatment. We can split it up latter if the resulting trope thrives and collects a ton of examples,

edited 28th Feb '13 8:06:32 AM by Catbert

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#5: Feb 28th 2013 at 8:29:10 AM

236's YKTTW is here.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6: Feb 28th 2013 at 8:47:38 AM

^^ I agree. That's what I think of when I see this title, not someone who is afraid of doctors. The two concepts are close enough that they should be merged together.

Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#7: Mar 2nd 2013 at 11:44:24 AM

Agreed. I described why they should be merged on my discussion. Whoever launched that page didn't know how to index it and didn't know the rules for launching a page.

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#8: Mar 4th 2013 at 8:45:43 AM

I say just axe this.

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#9: Mar 4th 2013 at 8:54:06 AM

Axe it. If we need it, we can always resurrect it with a YKTTW.

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#10: Mar 4th 2013 at 12:56:13 PM

I am also for cutlisting it.

Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#11: Mar 4th 2013 at 1:37:13 PM

I already took the description and used some of the lines for my Afraid Of Doctors YKTTW and took the example and added it to my page. Cheers.

edited 4th Mar '13 1:39:06 PM by Thecommander236

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#12: Mar 4th 2013 at 4:26:00 PM

The page does have a single inbound (not much I know, but more than zero) and the name isn't that bad, so I'd rather turn it into a redirect for the new trope that is being worked on right now.

Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#13: Mar 5th 2013 at 10:23:43 AM

That is fine. The new trope just needs two more hats and some refining and it's ready to go.

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#14: Apr 1st 2013 at 4:41:45 AM

Afraid of Doctors has been launched some time ago. Since it's description intentionally doesn't elaborate on why someone is afraid from doctors, we can say that Doesnt Trust Doctors is redundant to it and we'll redirect this to Afraid of Doctors if no objection occurs.

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#15: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:29:11 AM

I think there is a minor difference between being afraid of someone and not trusting them to be effective. I think we can merge the articles, but could use some tweaks in the description to incorporate both concepts.

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#16: Apr 1st 2013 at 7:29:17 AM

I agree with the tweak.

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#17: Apr 1st 2013 at 7:31:39 AM

Yeah. They're both about an aversion to doctors. I don't think the difference is significant.

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#18: Apr 1st 2013 at 11:30:45 AM

I have no objections. Since it's launched, anyone can do the tweak. Just make sure there's a consensus.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#19: Apr 1st 2013 at 11:44:46 AM

Afraid of doctors is a narrower title than the trope actually is, though. Should we address that before the trope really gets entrenched?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#20: Apr 1st 2013 at 1:08:39 PM

Well, it's an aversion (not that kind), as I said. Why not call it that?

Merging two very similar tropes is enough of a justification for a rename in my book, if there aren't other problems.

edited 1st Apr '13 1:09:52 PM by AnotherDuck

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21: Apr 1st 2013 at 1:57:51 PM

Doctor Aversion is what I assume you're suggesting, though Doesnt Like Doctors would also work.

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#22: Apr 1st 2013 at 3:52:11 PM

That or Aversion To Doctors. I think Doesnt Like Doctors, while not exactly dialogue, doesn't sound like a trope name.

Either "Afraid" or "(doesn't) trust" brings up too narrow connotations, though.

Though we should probably agree on a rename in the first place.

edited 1st Apr '13 3:52:42 PM by AnotherDuck

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#23: Apr 1st 2013 at 4:42:18 PM

Just throwing out suggestions.

YKTTW Old suggestions: Alternate names: Fear The Medical Professional, Fear The Doctor, Afraid Of Medical Professionals, Does Not Trust Doctors, Does Not Like Doctors, Afraid Of Medical Professionals

New ones: Suspicious of Doctors, Wary of Doctors, Concerned with Doctors, Concerned about Doctors, Ambiguous Trustworthy Doctorate, Doctor Untrustworthy, Distrusting of Doctors, Doctor Trustless

Before you ask, I save all my launches' YKTTW write ups on Microsoft word. (I always lose my bookmarks since I have 10000+... No that isn't a joke or exaggeration...)

edited 1st Apr '13 4:45:56 PM by Thecommander236

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#24: May 23rd 2013 at 1:44:54 PM

OK, since the article Doesnt Trust Doctors never evolved past the stub stage and duplicates Afraid of Doctors, I cutlisted the old article and retagged this thread to point to Afraid of Doctors since @21 suggested to rename that. I am not sure it's necessary tough.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25: May 23rd 2013 at 1:53:47 PM

Afraid of Doctors is narrower than the trope, but I don't really care anymore.

edited 23rd May '13 1:54:27 PM by Arha


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