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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#1: Feb 26th 2013 at 6:41:02 AM

That poorly constructed language that this wiki was founded on, ask all your English questions here. Since I started it I get to go first!

First recurring, reoccurring exactly what is the difference? I see them used interchangeably but there must be some different right?

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:38:42 AM

They are interchangeable. Don't worry about it.

MokonaZero Hohoende, kudasai! from Boundary Since: Nov, 2012
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#3: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:40:57 AM

Okay, the spelling of grey can also be gray, correct? Is there any difference? (Is it used in certain countries or something?)

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:43:40 AM

Gray: America

Grey: Commonwealth (England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia)

Canada alternates.

edited 26th Feb '13 11:45:40 AM by Leradny

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#5: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:45:20 AM

Recur, reoccur: The difference is that they stem from two different Latin words, is all.

  • recur (v.)

mid-15c., from Latin recurrere "to return, come back," from re- "back, again" (see re-) + currere "to run" (see current). Originally of persons; application to thoughts, ideas, etc. is recorded from 1704.

  • Reoccur: from re- "again" and occurrence (n.)

1530s, from Middle French occurrence "unexpected happening" or directly from Medieval Latin occurrentia, from Latin occurentem (nominative occurens), prp. of occurrere (see occur).

edited 26th Feb '13 11:46:21 AM by Madrugada

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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#6: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:53:28 AM

Why thank you. Anyway, according to grammarist.com as well as me dictionary Gray and grey are two alternate ways to romanticize grǽg. The difference I see is that Grey seems more likely to be a last name and is more popular outside of the Americas, especially USA.

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#7: Feb 26th 2013 at 1:46:54 PM

I use Grey all the time,...people wonder if I'm British sometimes. That said,it would seem they are interchangeable.

Why do we have inflammable and flammable mean the same thing?

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#8: Feb 26th 2013 at 3:16:30 PM

As with "recur" and "reoccur", the difference is whether the word came straight from Latin or filtered through French, first.

  • flammable (adj.):

1813, from Latin flammare "to set on fire" (from flamma; see flame) + -able.

  • inflammable (adj.)

early 15c., in medicine, "liable to inflammation," from Middle French inflammable and directly from Medieval Latin inflammabilis, from Latin inflammare (see inflame). As "able to be set alight," c.1600.

Latin has two "in-" prefixes (well, actually one is a "prefix" and one is an "element", and no, I don't know what the difference between a prefix and an element is in this case). The prefix means "not, opposite of, without". The element means "into, in, onto, or upon". It's the element that's in use in "inflammable".

edited 26th Feb '13 3:24:51 PM by Madrugada

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#9: Feb 26th 2013 at 4:04:22 PM

Didn't we already have a "Get Help with English Here" thread?

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#10: Feb 26th 2013 at 4:12:08 PM

That's for getting help with English so you can write correctly on the wiki.

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#11: Feb 26th 2013 at 4:25:40 PM

^^ Yes. But that's intended to be a place where people who are shaky or unsure on their writing in English get practical repair help on what they write. That one needs to stay on-topic, so the writing help doesn't get lost in the "Hey, why is it sometimes "grey" and sometimes "gray" when it's the same thing?" questions. That's why that one is over in the Workshops subforum.

edited 26th Feb '13 4:27:05 PM by Madrugada

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#12: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:19:56 AM

So Genius Loci anyone know the phonetic pronunciation for that?

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#13: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:24:32 AM

You mean the IPA or just how to say it? It's not a hard one, being exactly what it looks like — jee-nee-us low-key or jeen-yus low-key.

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#14: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:38:01 AM

To me it looked like jee-knee-us lock-key. But based on what you put plural would be, Genii Locorum, Jee-nigh Low-coe-rum?

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#15: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:58:04 AM

jee-nee-us low-key
Actually, the Latin 'G' in front is hard and not soft as in English, so it would be "ga-nee-us".

Jee-nigh Low-coe-rum?
Well, besides the hard 'G' from above, you pronunce each 'i' seperately: "ga-nee-ee".

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#16: Mar 3rd 2013 at 12:47:57 PM

I thought the trope was in reference to English terms that just so happened to be borrowed from Latin. Genius=smart person, Loci=places where the genes are. Genius loci= gene places that are smart? I guess that does not make much sense now that I think about it. So Latin Genius and Loci are not pronounced like English words with the same spelling?

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#17: Mar 3rd 2013 at 1:24:08 PM

No, genius loci is a term from classical Roman religion for a protective spirit (genius as in a specific individual of a divine nature) of a certain place (loci). Though, we use it to mean a place (loci) that has a rational, or sentient, soul (genius).

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#18: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:16:56 PM

I already knew about the genii of Roman religion but only just learned about it yesterday. The Genius Loci trope did not seem to be about the same thing (and now I have confirmation it is not) and a few people here like puns... so I jumped to wrong conclusions.

edited 3rd Mar '13 2:17:06 PM by Cider

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#19: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:21:18 PM

Why are there no other languages in the Anglic family tree left alive except for Scots? :o

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#20: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:27:12 PM

Because the Scots painted themselves blue before rampaging through their lands butt naked killing them all.

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#21: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:28:26 PM

But one of the languages was in Ireland! :p

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#22: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:43:13 PM

I'd guess it's partly because of the invasions of the Norse, the Germanic and finally the Normans?

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#23: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:43:45 PM

Hmm. :o I guess that makes sense?

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#24: Mar 19th 2013 at 9:26:10 AM

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#25: Mar 19th 2013 at 9:27:20 AM

I always thought that was just US and UK English variations?

I wouldn't mind getting a definitive answer on that myself, if someone knows for sure.

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