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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#13301: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:24:07 PM

So you think killing them is less awful then letting them live?

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#13302: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:28:49 PM

In all fairness living is overrated.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#13303: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:30:22 PM

[up][up]How much living you think a baby is doing in a trash can?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13304: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:32:44 PM

Honestly, I found Rose more condescending to humans than Pearl and Garnet have ever been. At least they aren't constantly giggling at everything they do or treating them like playthings. Obviously Rose wasn't malicious about any of it but I thought it was a nice way of going with it. Realistically, I think more all loving heroes would be more like that.

edited 20th Jul '15 8:33:22 PM by LSBK

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#13305: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:36:12 PM

[up][up] More than it could if you dropped it off a cliff. Easily enough to where someone could potentially rescue it.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#13306: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:38:45 PM

[up][up]i agree with you, actually.

admittedly i kind of fudged up the timeline in my head when i made that post and it hadn't dawned on me that rose and the gems had most likely won the war by the time they met up with greg (though i have the impression that some dialogue in story for steven that indicated this wasn't case). given that any deeper appreciation she had for humanity was developed long after the war.

edited 20th Jul '15 8:45:02 PM by wehrmacht

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#13307: Jul 20th 2015 at 8:45:02 PM

I really like the fanon of Yellow Diamond being Peridot's mom/mom figure.

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edited 20th Jul '15 8:46:13 PM by Spirit

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BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#13308: Jul 20th 2015 at 9:00:40 PM

You know how I thought in terms of Sailor Moon characters, Pearl would be the Luna? Now I've seen how the Sailor Moon S Movie is the story of 'thirsty' Luna. smile

Something of interest I've noticed is that Pearl and Amethyst have more or less switched roles. Amy's learned maturity and restraint, making her a lot less prone to outbursts than she used to be. Kinda sad, actually.
Remember how Amethyst used to love when Pearl got in trouble? Now it just makes her more depressed.

"It's sad. And funny!" (that the dreams in which she's dying are the best she's ever had)

Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#13309: Jul 20th 2015 at 9:36:50 PM

What if Yellow Diamond is actually a nice evil galactic imperialist.

Like "We're only trying to hollow out your planet because we're trying to save our species."

Sure they live for millenia, but nothing stays alive forever.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#13310: Jul 20th 2015 at 9:44:53 PM

'Cept for the things that do.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#13311: Jul 20th 2015 at 9:46:01 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Actually, some of Greg's dialogue in "The Return", along with his general behavior in that episode, has caused some to theorize that he's actually met a Homeworld gem before. As for why Greg never mentions it, well, he said that the Gems don't want Steven to see them that way.

[up][up] I had that idea too. It certainly has potential.

"Why are you doing this?!"

"Because we love you."

(Alternatively, "This is for you own good.")

I feel like this should be the characterization of another Homeworld ruler, though. White Diamond, maybe?

edited 20th Jul '15 9:51:22 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13312: Jul 20th 2015 at 9:51:06 PM

I don't know about that. The way the Gems reacted when Peridot first appeared makes it seem like she's the first Home World gem (not counting Lapis) who had been there since the war ended.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#13313: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:04:58 PM

[up] What was their reaction like, again? Depending on how they phrased it, it's possible that there could have been a sort of "aftermath skirmish".

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13314: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:07:42 PM

Pearl: "They're coming back! I can't do this, not again!" To me that sounds more like she doesn't want another war and not so much they've had a previous encounter with a gem relatively recently. Plus the whole episode focused on them thinking nothing could use the warp pads, which they've said have been out of commission for thousands of years, and Steven trying to convince them otherwise.

Edit: All in all I think people were reading too much into Greg's behavior. Like the ones thinking he was really a caveman or something. Given the situation and the subject him being nervous is completely understandable.

edited 20th Jul '15 10:09:33 PM by LSBK

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#13315: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:10:22 PM

I think it could go both ways, personally. As for the warp pads, maybe the gem crashed a spaceship, or had been regenerating for a very long time.

Edit: For me, it's that one line of Greg's (paraphrased): "It was thousands of years ago, it's not like I was there!" Seems a little odd for him to put it like that. At the very least, the way he talked about it made it seem like he had experienced more than Rose telling him about it.

I don't think he was a caveman, though - I think his story is how his flashbacks present it to be.

I don't know, maybe I am reading too into it. I think it's an interesting theory, though, so I'll stick with it until it's disproven.

edited 20th Jul '15 10:16:21 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#13317: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:23:39 PM

Crosslinking!

The Crystal Gems meet the Gaang, Korra Lazuli, and Korrasami as a fusion.

edited 20th Jul '15 10:23:52 PM by Keybreak

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#13318: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:46:52 PM

There's saving your species, but Peridot was made after the war and not on Earth, so...Of course, she's kind of a loser. And there's the implication that it needs to be a life-sustaining planet to work anyway.

Mom Diamond for the win though. Mom Diamond or overly friendly 'let's go swimming old chap' Diamond.

edited 20th Jul '15 10:47:09 PM by Ruise

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#13319: Jul 20th 2015 at 10:49:41 PM

I really like the fanon of Yellow Diamond being Peridot's mom/mom figure.
I don't think it's at all likely, but it's a very entertaining thought. I especially like the idea that Peridot considers her "mom", but Yellow Diamond is a total asshole to her, like that picture of a text message from earlier.

BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#13320: Jul 20th 2015 at 11:01:52 PM

But the little ones are like her babies!

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#13321: Jul 20th 2015 at 11:05:58 PM

the gems had most likely won the war by the time they met up with greg
It definitely happened long before that: Amethyst made it clear in "Rose's Scabbard" that the war ended before she joined ("Man, I wish I could've seen it!" "No, you don't."), but she was in Beach City "nearly two hundred years ago" when William Dewey landed there.

However, you made me realized it may have been more recently than I had figured: I was previously assuming the battle 5000 years ago in the field surrounding the Pyramid Temple ended the war, but it could have gone on for quite a bit longer.

On a related note, I realized Amethyst may be less than 6000 years old: that's when the Kindergarten was made, but no one said she was made quickly—even with the Injectors, it could have taken hundreds or thousands of years to form gems from the Earth. Creating the clusters apparently took a long time as well, given Peridot said some of them "emerged early".

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#13322: Jul 20th 2015 at 11:07:38 PM

Amethyst emerged after the war already ended (like you said) so no more than 5000 years.

edited 20th Jul '15 11:09:46 PM by Ruise

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#13324: Jul 20th 2015 at 11:14:13 PM

Amethyst emerged after the war already ended (like you said) so no more than 5000 years.
Amethyst was discovered by the Crystal Gems after the war ended. It was implied she popped out and was just farting around in the Kindergarten for a very long time by human standards ("Uh, how long did you live here?" "For awhile, I guess, um, at least until I met your mom and the others.").

[up]I just rewatched the first three seasons of that show, and that remains one of my favorite episodes.

Like "We're only trying to hollow out your planet because we're trying to save our species."

Sure they live for millenia, but nothing stays alive forever.

There's saving your species, but Peridot was made after the war and not on Earth
There's still several possible situations where gems are still a Dying Race: Maybe their natural means of birth hasn't stopped yet, but is slowing down. Or maybe it has stopped and Peridot is one of the few gems the Injectors could grow on planets besides Earth.

edited 20th Jul '15 11:42:53 PM by thatother1dude

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#13325: Jul 21st 2015 at 2:15:31 AM

I've rewatched "Friend Ship"" 6 times, and Peri's just as likable as ever.

Spikes? How do you like my spiiiiikes!

Die die die die die die die die die!


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