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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43776: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:09:53 PM

Did Earl leave her for Governer Tewey?

DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#43777: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:12:01 PM

Plot twist: Earl left her for Breg and died after giving birth to Fteven.

edited 26th Sep '16 1:13:01 PM by DeathsApprentice

Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#43778: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:18:11 PM

would mystery girl's team be the Crystal Jams?

New theme music also a box
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43779: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:27:23 PM

Okay, I was ambivalent towards this idea, but the Crystal Jams sold me on it. Hard.

DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#43780: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:53:32 PM

We are the Crystal Jams, we'll always save the day...

Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.
Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#43781: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:59:56 PM

I could see the Krystal Jams as an indie band.

Me and my friend's collaborative webcomic: Forged Men
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43782: Sep 26th 2016 at 2:02:55 PM

The Krystal Jams, Pearl's new favorite band.

Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#43783: Sep 26th 2016 at 2:08:35 PM

S: "We used to have a bassist named Bishop, but we had a falling out. She wanted to take the Krystal Jams in a radical new direction."

edited 26th Sep '16 2:08:57 PM by Ninjaxenomorph

Me and my friend's collaborative webcomic: Forged Men
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#43784: Sep 26th 2016 at 2:10:58 PM

we find out that they have a pink tiger as their band mascot

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#43785: Sep 26th 2016 at 3:11:47 PM

The funny thing is, several hours after making that suggestion, I remembered an issue of the comics was about Steven seeing a fashion model in a magazine that looked just like Garnet, and ended with him finding another that looked like Amethyst.

edited 26th Sep '16 3:13:30 PM by thatother1dude

GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
#43787: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:20:00 PM

Me personally I don't understand the second articles's point about steven. Saying that he exerts a male authority, when the series is all about Steven's to age story about how grows to be wiser and stronger person. It doesn't mean the Gems are weaker or that they are any less important

Ugh, can someone please PM this article. I need a good gag.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#43788: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:35:08 PM

Three things:

  1. [up] Forward that post to me as well, please. I got here after the mods removed the post, and I want to see just what exactly sparked that whole mess of a debate.

  2. When people mention S's doppleganger team, all I can think of is that scene in Shaun of the Dead where Shaun meet's Yvonne's team of survivors, and they're all dopplegangers of his team. If that happens in SU (which it won't), I'd want a scene like that.

  3. I caved in and bought one of those mini figures, and I got Battle Ready Steven! I really like the design. It's like a medium between replica figurines (like the amiibos), and the FunCo Pop overly stylized figures. The paint and molding's good too, especially for the size. Plus, his little serious face is adorable!

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43789: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:25:33 PM

Me personally I don't understand the second articles's point about steven. Saying that he exerts a male authority, when the series is all about Steven's to age story about how grows to be wiser and stronger person. It doesn't mean the Gems are weaker or that they are any less important.

Steven doesn't exert authority, he appeals to their better natures. He's the Gems' Morality Pet.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#43790: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:31:23 PM

"The Message" kicks off the rest of the plot. Surprised i never saw this episode or heard it referred to, it's very important.

Bananaquit A chub from the Grant Corporation from The Darién Gap Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
A chub from the Grant Corporation
#43791: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:50:27 PM

[up][up]Or the Voice of Reason, as he’s referred to in a recent episode.

Confirmed Bachelors: the dramedy hit of 1883!
MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#43792: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:50:42 PM

i didnt actually read either of the articles because i knew id irritate myself without actually learning anything but hey have a lappy and a veggie

moved to Oceanstuck because this handle was starting to bother me my tumblr
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43793: Sep 27th 2016 at 1:21:51 AM

That Onion/Steven analysis was really good.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#43794: Sep 27th 2016 at 3:30:14 AM

Good analysis

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#43795: Sep 27th 2016 at 11:55:22 AM

Left to their own devices, the Gems are very violent and trigger-happy by default. Hit first, ask questions never.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#43796: Sep 27th 2016 at 12:50:59 PM

Aye. Pearl is neater and Amethyst messier about it, but their first instinct when confronted with a thing they don't understand is still "smash," making Steven more of a Morality Pet than they realize.

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
#43797: Sep 27th 2016 at 1:06:41 PM

If anything, it's Steven who embodies the expected female solution to their problem, and it's the Gems who go for the action first approach. Which is shown to be often incorrect. They're typically the ones with the authority.

A lot of critiques that claim Steven being the main character undermines female empowerment are kind of missing the point. I mean, it's not like he hogs the focus, they get a very healthy amount of sympathy and focus in the show. Plus, Greg also shows that the males are usually the least physically capable of the cast, yet this doesn't devalue their contributions. Now that's a message I can appreciate, both sexes having something to offer together.

"No will to break."
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43798: Sep 27th 2016 at 3:05:00 PM

Plus, Steven's a white male kid who wants to be as awesome and badass as the other Crystal Gems.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43799: Sep 27th 2016 at 5:02:18 PM

Not to mention that Sadie is consistently shown as more badass than Lars when the situation calls for it.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43800: Sep 27th 2016 at 7:30:48 PM

Bringing it back to Jasper and Bismuth, and how they're portrayed: I never saw them as being exceptionally violent or aggressive, because nearly all the Gems we see are violent and aggressive. Peridot's first instinct on meeting a brand new life form is to crush it. Lapis is pissed off and afraid, and she tries to drown two children who can't possibly harm her. Rose punches out a ferris wheel. The current Crystal Gems are more considerate, but they still smash human property at will (did you really have to break into Kofi's car, Garnet? You couldn't just use your super speed to get Greg?).

Jasper is THE Quartz Super-Soldier. She's violent, but it's surgical violence akin to Peridot. Her first reaction to the Crystal Gems is basically "I don't want to fight you" (and then she orders Peridot to use the laser cannon, but still). She tries to end both fights with Garnet as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Bismuth is a Crystal Gem who's still in the Rebellion mindset. The other Crystal Gems have had six thousand years to get used to peace. For Bismuth, the war really was yesterday, and almost everyone she knew and loved is dead. We get to see her good side and her bad side, and we also get to see that the other Crystal Gems were a lot like Bismuth during their sparring session on the beach.


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