Mad Max: Fury Road

Please don't bring up that Wachowskis movie, there was an overly long argument about it not long ago and I'd rather we not go through that once more :p

I do have to admit I was pretty impressed with the fact that the movie was basically just one long chase sequence. I wasn't really aware of that going in, but it's kind of a funny thing in retrospect.

edited 20th Apr '16 12:58:24 PM by wehrmacht

Welll, there's a big interruption in the middle once they're past the ex-Green Place, and another in the start between Max's capture and the start of Furiosa's escape.

So, from one to four chase sequences, depending on how you count them.

As for the visual gags, I just didn't catch them. I'm terrible at noticing humour that isn't pun-based.

Here's a fun (but time-consuming) exericse.

Try to watch the movie once completely, once without sound, once with just the audio.

It's eye-opening.

@Handle You discovered this, too? Awesome!

As a side note, Fury Road has permanently ruined my perception of Norse Mythology.

Read Vinland Saga.

I've probably watched this movie about 18 times by now.

Personally, I still think Terminator 2 was better.

As my old friend the Dalek Emperor would say, "DO NOT BLASPHEME! DO NOT BLASPHEME!"

T2 is a brilliant movie, saw it when it first came out at the cinema and loved it, but it wasn't a complete film. Most of the interesting stuff only showed up on home video versions years later and that just pissed me off.

Granted, vindland saga desconstrued the hell of the vikings, the scene in "Valhalla" is proof of that, but when you have a freaking pacifist there...

T2 improve a lot is succesor, while Mad max is good, is B movie at best

I'd be hesitant to call Fury Road a "b movie" in the traditional sense. B movies are cheesy and tend to have low production values. Neither of which I would say applies to Fury Road.

Of course, some movies, like D-War, can have a big budget (for the country's average cost, at least) AND still turn out as a B-movie.

B movie have very low concepts for story, like a "tornado with sharks in it" Mad max is pretty much "mario kart in hell" is just this movie avoid the pitfall of B movies: it dosent try to be tounge in cheek or lampashade the hell of their premise, they dont even have conversation so their chararter can have Dept, it just shut up and ramp the insanity

It might be accurate to say it has a B movie-esque premise but I feel the film rises cleanly above that because of its elegant execution of the concept. It's minimalist in terms of characters but it does a lot with the little time it devotes to them, the dialogue and visual aesthetic feels stylish and fun instead of cheesy or Narm-y, etc.

I would say the difference between an A movie and B movie involves less budget but rather quality, such as cinematography and writing.

But then again, by that logic Transformers series would be a B-movie series, even though they are A movies.

Hey, I never said that A-movies are necessarily good.

I thinkg the movie give them little time on purpose, like knowing that if they talk to much about something, the lack of deph and the B esque premise will show so instead it show about not showing, which it work

And B movie run in Narm charm for most of the time and they know it, instead this go up to eleven into this high nightmare of visual that we all really like to love.

I think foisting the term "B-movie" on blockbusters, regardless of quality, usually undermines both concepts because many actual B-movies suffer problems of too much plot and exposition to make up for scant special effects.

Besides, Fury Road has a depth-full plot, communicated in a subtle manner. Describing years of backstory and character identity in props and gestures is far from simple; it's not easy. I don't see the "just Mario Kart in Hell" premise covering "nuanced depiction of sex slavery and feminist identity", or "examination of causes behind suicide warriors across the centuries". That's far beyond a B-movie.

Agreed wholeheartedly on that.

If it's a B-movie, it's the kind of B-movie that Irwin Allen, creator of "The Towering Inferno" would have killed to make.

" I don't see the "just Mario Kart in Hell" premise covering "nuanced depiction of sex slavery and feminist identity", or "examination of causes behind suicide warriors across the centuries". That's far beyond a B-movie."

Easy: inmortal joe wants his rape-bride back, Furiosa who steal them tell him to fuck out, they race to death for it.

Is...pretty much it, what you said is true but that add meaning but not complexity, is still a very simple and insane premise take to the extrime and the film know it.

"many actual B-movies suffer problems of too much plot and exposition to make up for scant special effects."

I always find moviebuster to be that while B movies just use some concept and get along with it.

All you did was describe the plotlines simply. You didn't explain how its themes are covered by the premise of "just a crazy race taken to the extreme". There have been plenty of movies of that same premise that have had nowhere near the complexity of Fury Road, like the '08 Death Race. Merely pursuing a story of "a mad car chase" doesn't naturally lead to Fury Road's nuanced themes. George Miller didn't just happen to write a story that had detailed depiction of sex slavery and suicide warrior cults. He went out and researched about it from people who knew about the subject like Eve Ensler. If he wanted to just make a crazy car movie, he could've done that and the movie would just be its action scenes without the characters. But instead he set out to tell a deeper story with characters that fuels the chase.

edited 27th Apr '16 12:12:09 AM by Tuckerscreator

"Merely pursuing a story of "a mad car chase" doesn't naturally lead to Fury Road's nuanced themes. George Miller didn't just happen to write a story that had detailed description of sex slavery and suicide warrior cults."

Is really that detailed? I mean the bride barely got that much devolptment, they are good chararter but as detaild descripton of sexual slavery? with the sucial cults I can belive more seen we see the praise on Inmortal joe and Nux who have the most complete arc in the movie

Well, here's what I see the movie communicate about sex slavery.

1. "Brides" are treated like objects by their captors, but their owners refuse to believe that their slaves legitimately hate them.

2. Stockholm syndrome sometimes ensues even if material goods come nowhere near paying for violation.

3. Being pregnant with your rapist's child is a burden, but the child will not necessarily be their father.

4. Even in captivity, people develop their own unique interests, personalities, and desires.

3. Those who were abused can still find real love in the future.

4. Slaves who've been helpless their whole lives can still be powerful in battle through ingenuity and compassion.

So I think there's a lot there. Not stuff merely found in a game of Mario Kart or watching Death Race.

Oh God, I can never get tired of watching this scene.

Among many spectacular moments in this movie, in my opinion that scene is the pinnacle of epic car chase.

Personally, I think the final chase scene is the highlight. Can't get over how awesome those pole fights were.

God, I remember that one pole guy who killed a Vuvalini, took a knife and thrown off War Rig, but hung on to climb back up and shoot Max in the face and almost killing Furiosa.

That was one badass mook.

Film Crit Hulk did a good writeup about Fury Road yesterday. Well, it's really about The Revenant, but he talks a lot about this film at section 4.

And I agree with the second chase as my favorite. Helps that the music is at its most memorable there.

EDIT: Oh hey, I got mentioned in the article! Sort of, he quoted me on Twitter saying the film was "shiny and chrome".

edited 13th May '16 12:08:59 PM by Tuckerscreator

I don't see the big deal with ,Fury Road. Its cast are all cliches that I find better handled in post apocalyptic anime. Nux is the only one the writers and director attempted to give any form of three dimensional depth while everyone else was a concept more so than character. I hate ideas without individuals making them important. The idea behind Furiosa sounded interesting, what she represents as an allegory. There is allegory fiction - case point Animal Farm. Unless Fury Road was sold as one then wtf is with all the lack of character focus. It's almost nonexistent, which I find not only boring but lazy. Like I said on DOJ page, you can talk about the symbolic meaning all you want. Without fully realized characters to invest in then all I'm left with is an idea the end. I go to school to learn about new ideas. Or watch PBS. I read, watch, and play fiction because characters taniangable enough to be called real bring those ideas to life - case point Jessica Jones.

So again what's the big deal with FR? If the acting was Syfy bad, Gods of Egypt, then yeah it would be a B film alright.

edited 13th May '16 12:13:53 PM by FictionWriterKing