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TropeEater That One Troper from the depths of Hell Since: Mar, 2012
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#1: Jan 7th 2013 at 2:57:51 PM

It's not outright bad, but Avatar being what it is, the character seems to comply a bit more with the Bishōnen aesthetic than the western Pretty Boy one. (This is one of the main reasons why I don't like the tropes being split the way they are, but that's a different discussion.)

Do you think we could find a more traditional example?

edited 7th Jan '13 2:58:07 PM by TropeEater

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#2: Jan 7th 2013 at 3:17:55 PM

I don't mind the current, but as an alternative, what about Legolas? 1, 2

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#3: Jan 7th 2013 at 4:03:48 PM

How about going back a ways, to one of the earliest movie Pretty Boys, Tony Curtis:

That hair, those eyes, that skin! Why, he's as pretty as she is!

edited 7th Jan '13 4:05:27 PM by Madrugada

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#4: Jan 7th 2013 at 4:19:09 PM

...Maybe this is me, but he doesn't look that pretty.

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#5: Jan 7th 2013 at 4:29:43 PM

Pretty Boy is not "androgynous". Does he look "ruggedly handsome" or "typically masculine"?

edited 7th Jan '13 4:29:51 PM by Madrugada

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#6: Jan 7th 2013 at 4:41:23 PM

The current image is bad. I can't tell if that's a man or woman. The suggestions don't make it clear that we're supposed to see him as pretty. If there were girls fawning over him in the background that would help.

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#7: Jan 7th 2013 at 4:54:04 PM

[up][up] Actually, yes? To the latter, at least. (I agree he wouldn't be 'ruggedly handsome' even if he managed to grow Perma-Stubble.)

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#8: Jan 7th 2013 at 6:31:31 PM

I think #3 is the best choice so far. It illustrates the trope better than Lego Lasse.

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#9: Jan 7th 2013 at 11:15:03 PM

#2.2 is fine, but #3 is better as it's illustrative (though I thought the trope was just "western bishie" at first) and a less common example.

edited 7th Jan '13 11:15:09 PM by Telcontar

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#10: Jan 8th 2013 at 6:41:33 AM

I can live with 3, although I don't get "pretty" from him like the others.

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#11: Jan 8th 2013 at 12:39:23 PM

3 looks kind of looks like a girl. Leo would be better with that hair and that smile.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#12: Jan 8th 2013 at 2:14:40 PM

[up]I think he looks more like a girl than #3.

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#13: Jan 8th 2013 at 4:36:53 PM

Yeah, Leo to me fits more than 3.

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#14: Jan 8th 2013 at 6:13:36 PM

What about Chase? He doesn't look like a girl but he's still pretty.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#15: Jan 8th 2013 at 7:25:30 PM

[up]He's usually pretty. That's not it. That fuzz just looks weird on him.

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#16: Jan 8th 2013 at 9:13:50 PM

[up][up] I thought about Chase when this first came up, but that's not a good pic...first or second season was when he was at his prettiest.

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#17: Jan 8th 2013 at 11:13:47 PM

I notice there are quite a lot of links to images in the page examples (...some of which might better suit another trope, but nevertheless).

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#18: Jan 9th 2013 at 12:08:47 AM

It's true. The page makes it clear that this is not the same thing as Dude Looks Like a Lady. If that's what an example is then it shouldn't be on the page. We're trying to find a picture that looks pretty but still like a guy.

First or second season like [1] [2] or [3]?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#19: Jan 9th 2013 at 5:09:04 AM

I still like #3 more. That one emphasises his prettyness rather than just being a shot of someone some people think is pretty.

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willthiswork Since: Oct, 2012
#20: Jan 9th 2013 at 11:54:24 AM

I am leaning towards 3. I do not find that guy particularly attractive, but he does the best job of illustratining the supposed difference between this trope and bishonen.

Although some of the examples seem contradictory to our purported "difference", I suppose that is not Image Pickin work.

edited 9th Jan '13 11:56:48 AM by willthiswork

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#21: Jan 9th 2013 at 4:47:21 PM

3 is too cute to be pretty. (I figured out how to articulate my dissatisfaction!) The most solid adjectives in the description are 'slender', 'slight', and 'fine facial features'. 3 is none of those.


(Separated to avoid double-post)

Here are some images linked from the page itself that seem plausible:

edited 9th Jan '13 5:45:37 PM by Noaqiyeum

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#22: Jan 9th 2013 at 5:57:02 PM

[up]I thought about that, but I think he looks too stylished and neat to be cute.

As for the other suggestions, the only one remotely close to illustrating the trope is Gregory. They're otherwise just subjectively pretty.

edited 9th Jan '13 5:58:46 PM by AnotherDuck

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#23: Jan 9th 2013 at 6:00:19 PM

Since when is good grooming incompatible with cuteness? o_O

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#24: Jan 9th 2013 at 6:31:39 PM

How is pretty incompatible with cute?

edited 9th Jan '13 6:32:05 PM by AnotherDuck

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#25: Jan 9th 2013 at 6:54:31 PM

The same way ornate is incompatible with elegant? See next page.

edited 9th Jan '13 7:30:48 PM by Noaqiyeum

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ImagePickin: PrettyBoy
10th Jan '13 8:41:31 PM

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