If Lucasfilm hired YOU to write Star Wars Episodes VII-IX

I don't want to bring the Sith back, honestly. That's why in my plot idea (a few pages back), I suggested a Robot Rebellion.

I think bringing the Sith back, specially with such a small window of time, kind of cheapens the whole "Anakin will bring balance to the force" thing. It makes Vader's sacrifice a lot less meaningful when the Sith just come back from the grave no more than a few decades after Palps dies.

Yeah, it does cheapen it to a certain extent, though with "secret Sith" like in my idea, at least the Sith are starting from a disadvantage, since Luke's had 30 years to build up a Jedi order and these Sith were very out-of-touch with broader Galactic Affairs (knowing only what they would need to know to not get caught by the Jedi or by Palpatine after hsi ascent).

While I am personally a fan of the Sith, putting them into my scenario because i'd want them there, they *are* going to come back. This is practically assured. They've been too mythologized in the public consciousness, let alone amongst the fanbase proper.

Yeah they probably will come back, but still. I think Sith coming back would only be interesting for me if they added something specifically noting that they broke the propechy via some ancient Sith mumbo jumbo and that is a galactic-wide deal. Maybe Palps specifically fucked up with the whole ordeal somehow, thus ensuring the dark side would rise again (just to be a dick).

Well, as long as Korriban, Ziost, and that one other world exist, so will the Sith.

But what of the prophecy?

"A prophecy misread may have been"

Yoda

So the prophecy means Anakin would destroy the Sith and bring balance to The Force at the cost of Jedi genocide and the loss of billions of lives of the Empire, but then the Sith would return more powerful than ever a couple decades later? [Man what an assholish prophecy.

The Force is an epic-level troll.

The Force was also a rapist. It had done something to Shmi.

In my scenario the Sith aren't really coming back more powerful: they've got deeper knowledge of the Force but are much less involved in Galactic affairs, basically knowing no-one outside of their own little colony, so they start at a marked disadvantage to the Jedi, unlike in the prequels where they were vastly outnumbered but in the midst of carrying out a plan 1000 years in the making.

Although yeah, some bs somewhere is going to invalidate the prophecy at some point.

Yoda did say the future is... difficult to accurately predict and read.

Here's my idea which I have half formed:

After Episode 6 Luke goes off to found a new Jedi school, but it's attacked by empire loyalists and his students are slaughtered. In his retreat Luke finds one of the Loyalists is a force sensitive boy around 15, and after a brief fight, takes him with him in his retreat.

The first film starts two years later with them on a desert planet, Luke teaching the young boy (he's named Starkiller, but Luke renames him David) how to be a jedi. Spending his youth in deep space with loyalists David is constantly towing the line between light and dark, but he genuinely wants to be a better person. On the opposite side, Luke finds himself constantly being pulled to the dark as he is billowing with rage over the deaths of his students. The true nature of their relationship and their paths will be the driving force of the trilogy, with Luke bowing out around the second film.

The three antagonists are (obviously) loyalists who are building up forces for an assault on the New Republic. There's General Granter, the New Emperor in a sense, and Count Zoran, a powerful Sith. There's also a third grievous type villain I've only named "Nega-Jedi" in my notes. I want to emphasize more unique force powers. Zoran is capable of turning light to plasma and manipulating it, so his fight scenes would all be in the dark and it would make light sabers effectively useless. Nega-Jedi is kind of a force negator, force attacks just sort of fizzle out around him. Luke has also given up his lightsaber to David, afraid of the power it gives him. Instead he finds barehanded, using the force to augment his attacks. He can also "Grab" lightsabers using an incredibly powerful force field inches off his palms, giving the impression he's holding it.

And that's what I have so far. Also Nega-Jedi has a wolverine arm of Lightsabers he stole.

I'd be up for someone specifically fucking up with the prophecy via a ancient Sith ritual of some sort. Like I suggested, maybe Palps did it just to be a dick.

I'd prefer the prophecy turn out to just be overblown or mistranslated than having to do with the Sith ruining it. It would fit well with the whole "Old Jedi order fell because of their complacency and arrogance" theme.

I think that theme is overstated. People translate "The Jedi Order grew stail" to "The Jedi Order became a bunch of useless morons". Just because they are a tad complacent does not mean all their lessons must be thrown away or they are incapable of wisdom.

I'm not saying you said that, but you reminded me. Anyway, I'd find that boring because of the aforementioned reasons and because it effectively makes the entire plot of both the prequel and the sequel useless. Obi-Wan, Yoda and Anakin died for nothing.

They didn't die for nothing they died to safeguard the galaxy against tyranny. But as long as there are people to be evil it shall always exist. The worth of fighting evil isn't in its destruction but in the salvation of others from its oppression.

Jolee Bindo said something to that effect, right? It's on the Star Wars Tearjerker page to dissuade Light Side KOTOR players from feeling that all that was for nothing since Darth Vader kills the Jedi in 4,000 years.

Personally, I'd prefer to do prequels to the prequels, set in like ancient, old republic times or something, mainly because I consider Luke's story to be over and there's no need to bother with it anymore, drag in too-old actors and actresses and ruin the classic feel of the original trilogy, not to mention how weird it'll be to see the triology's Zeerust suddenly turn into the prequel's sleekiness - which is actually kind of Fridge Brilliance, in that the galaxy looks a lot less pretty and more bleak after the Empire takes over...I have less hatred for the prequels than most fans, I guess.

Anyway, my ideal Star Wars movie would follow some Villain Protagonist, sympathetic, but not Vader-sympathetic; more where we're constantly forced to question whether the guy (or girl, whatever) is justified in his actions or not. Additionally, I'd say either make this protagonist a Sith or not force-sensitive at all, and alien while we're at it. It's Space, let's branch off from humans and robot sidekicks, and throw in an alien main character that isn't Yoda; I imagine a Twi'lek would be the easiest.

Maybe a slave-girl who massacres her masters, and learns from some Sith Lord to stand on her own whilst being pursued by Bounty Hunters or something.

I'd like less of a Space Opera and more of a Space Western I guess, at least thematically and stylistically; revive two genres at once.

edited 2nd Mar '14 1:48:19 AM by HisInfernalMajesty

That actually isn't a bad idea, though it sounds distinctly aped from Yuthura Ban's little side-story in Knights Of The Old Republic. She was that slave, and became a Sith to empower herself and strive against the slavers, but lost herself in Sith games.

I have faith that the writers of the new trilogy will know to keep the old actors limited in their roles to what is sensible. It's going to be a new story of new characters, just with the oldies hovering around. Leia as New Republic President (or just a high minister of some sort) is an obvious holdover from the EU, while Luke could serve roles analogous to Obi-Wan in the OT and Yoda in the prequels: some action and a decent bit of screentime, but not really a focal character.

Han can be First Gentleman of the Galactic Republic

I thought Han was supposed to be high ranking military?

I agree with the EU idea that he abandoned that position relatively quickly. While his assumption of command in Return of the Jedi was a sign of further Character Development (completion of his arc from mercenary to responsible guy), he's still Han, and as the Rebellion becomes the New Republic and bureaucratizes, he wouldn't really enjoy being a General.

He keeps an eye on things in the Coruscant underworld when he's not at home with Leia and the kids, that's my general thought.

My first step would be to make a time jump to the next generation. After all, each trilogy so far was about another one...plus, I think it would be odd to see the characters played by someone else.

I would make the films a slice-of-life series about the Ice Cream Maker guy. It would retcon that he was carrying a computer core, and take him back to his ice-cream-maker roots. The films would be entirely in CGI.

I imagine that it would feature in some way Chewbacca's family. I mean, we really haven't seen enough of them. The eighth movie would be ALL about Chewbacca's family. It would probably be a retelling of the Holiday Special, but in CGI. Anakin's perm would be removed by digital editing.

edited 19th Mar '14 1:32:19 PM by Jinxmenow

-wishes people with serious suggestions for the trilogy would make them- (: P)

One thing I do know is that whatever plot would be developed for this set of films, it would need to be lighter on the politics compared to the prequels, but not entirely devoid of them. Perhaps a conflict between the NR and the Chiss, manipulated by the Sith Order to devastate both sides, would work best for this.

It's more because all the people who actually wanted to say their movie suggestions already did in the previous pages (mine is in page six) so the thread is left a bit vague on concepts as of now.