NSFW/Image Macro: And The Fandom Rejoiced.Anime

1. OK.

2. Disagree. The problem with memes is that they look memey. Unlike Demotivators, meme images like the reaction guys don't look less memey when the context is different.

Um, guys, what are we talking about here?

The use of a "reaction guys" image on an And the Fandom Rejoiced subpage.

This trope is pretty much the entire purpose for that meme.

I do not think it looks too meme-y. It looks like it illustrates the trope to me.

I think they're arguing whether or not the picture would still look like a meme if the Gaijin Yonkoma meme wasn't actually a thing. Which... isn't really relevant, since it is, and therefore this image doesn't qualify per strict no-meme rule. (I think?)

edited 12th Dec '12 9:28:53 AM by ShadowHog

I think it's more that the meme was designed to illustrate the And The Fandom Rejoiced concept, and became a meme because it did that so well. 'We would use it if it weren't a meme' has that in mind. So it's more that this is more a special case where 'absolutely no memes' may be more harmful than beneficial.

1. I'm honestly not even that attached to the picture; I'm not just not a fan of the idea that something being memetic disqualifies it even when it's an apt illustration. I'm all for "no shoehorning memes onto pages", but I don't think an image that happens to be memetic should be axed for that reason if it illustrates the trope to someone with know knowledge of the meme.

2. I'd argue that the picture doesn't really look meme-y on it's own. The "reaction guys" meme isn't that image itself, it's the specific 4-panel comic format. Taking it out of the meme context it's just a picture of four guys looking excited about something.

I don't think an image that happens to be memetic should be axed for that reason if it illustrates the trope to someone with know knowledge of the meme.

I am pretty sure we have axed memes even when they did illustrate the thing - see Fridge Brilliance, the old image did work well but was still replaced as a meme.

I'm aware that they do that, I'm just saying I don't think that policy should be non-negotiable because there are occasional cases where the meme works. But yeah, it's really not a big deal. In all honesty, the reaction guys image is personally "meh" for me anyway.

It is not non-negotiable. There are several exceptions. This does not qualify for one, I don't think.

It's also on the Sugar Wiki, which in itself is more lax about stuff than the regular wiki. May or may not have anything to do with the image pickin' decisions, but as mentioned, this particular meme is a meme because it illustrates this very trope so well.

So we are arguing whether we can use the meme image here?

You'll have to ask for Word Of Admin on this, methinks.

Frankly, my vote at the moment is only Keep Until Better Image Suggested. I just don't think the fact that it's a meme is so terrible it must be immediately purged without replacement.

This is pretty much how I feel about it. I won't cry if this one gets pulled, but I don't feel that it's bad enough to merit removal unless we have a good replacement.

^^ That is policy tho. You're saying you don't agree with policy. That's fine but it doesn't constitute a good reason to violate it.

Unless there is some official word that it's okay, it's not.

I don't think he's arguing that we should ignore the policy, but that the policy shouldn't necessarily be as strict as it is.

That belongs into a policy thread, then, because as-is the policy is that strict.

Hmm... Again, I think this is more of a special case due to the interconnection of its illustrativeness and its... memeticism (?). Perhaps that still deserves a policy thread, though?

At any rate, this is still all moot if anyone finds an image that illustrates it better.

edited 14th Dec '12 2:00:25 PM by Noaqiyeum

Clock's up; locking up. No further action is to be taken based on this thread.