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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#4951: Jun 9th 2015 at 12:51:51 PM

The recording Obi-Wan and Yoda watches. Anakin kills the best blademaster in the order(played by the guy who taught the cast how to fight IIRC).

Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#4952: Jun 9th 2015 at 1:00:28 PM

He also defeats Dooku alone after Obi-Wan is knocked out. Dooku wasn't disarmerd prior to that.

BBrown052 Since: May, 2012
#4953: Jun 9th 2015 at 1:25:56 PM

Dooku never felt like a serious threat to me (Christopher Lee is a great actor, but its hard to find him intimidating when he keeps jogging into his scenes looking out of breath.) Other people may disagree, but Anakin defeating him never seemed that impressive. And he's the toughest guy Anakin kills in the movie.

As for Anakin defeating the toughest swords-master in the Jedi Order, that should really have been something that was called attention to. Anakin killing on guy in a tiny hologram that other characters are watching isn't impressive or defining, especially when it requires knowledge of supplemental material to know who the guy is and how tough he is supposed to be. Its no wonder I don't remember it.

Anakin defeating adult Jedi should have been a stronger focus, not a minor detail.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4954: Jun 9th 2015 at 2:35:34 PM

Dooku summarily hands Anakin and Obi-Wan their asses in Attack of the Clones. He's only outclassed by Master Yoda, the strongest Jedi of his time and possibly of all time. Anakin defeating him is no mean feat.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
KlarkKentThe3rd Since: May, 2010
#4955: Jun 9th 2015 at 3:17:04 PM

[up]And yet Yoda could not defeat Palpatine.

The realization he is not that strong, was the reason he went into exile.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4956: Jun 9th 2015 at 3:19:38 PM

Though I always saw their duel as more of a inconclusive draw. In a more favorable scenario, I believe Yoda could have beaten him (or at least led to a Taking You with Me situation).

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#4957: Jun 9th 2015 at 3:19:44 PM

IIRC Lee wanted to do his own stunts so that may be why Dooku seems a bit underpowered.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#4958: Jun 9th 2015 at 3:30:18 PM

Lee is a championship fencer and that influenced Dooku's entire fighting style, but he still had plenty of stunt doubles.

As for Anakin, he defeated Dooku, an admittedly old man but nonetheless established as a Master Swordsman who swiftly defeated him in the previous film. Anakin also directly lead the attack on the Jedi temple. Yes, the clone troopers ensured he had support, but we had direct confirmation that he still fought many Jedi and killed them in 2v1 (or more) combat. Cin Drallig is All There in the Manual but adding that information doesn't negate what is already shown, that Anakin is at least one of the most powerful Jedi.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#4959: Jun 9th 2015 at 3:33:30 PM

Yeah, in the old canon the guy he was shown beating in the hologram was the head-lightsaber-teacher-guy at the temple so he was doubtless pretty good.

He also impaled the annoying librarian from Episode II. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

edited 9th Jun '15 3:57:37 PM by HamburgerTime

KlarkKentThe3rd Since: May, 2010
#4960: Jun 9th 2015 at 3:58:20 PM

@Gaon: What defeated Palpatine? Not a more skillful jedi, but his weakness. His overconfidence that everything will go exactly as he planned and his servant remaining loyal.

Defeated not by a warrior, but by his greatest weakness.

edited 9th Jun '15 4:14:52 PM by KlarkKentThe3rd

KlarkKentThe3rd Since: May, 2010
#4962: Jun 10th 2015 at 3:15:10 PM

[up]I just want one proper trailer, and I could continue waiting in peace.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#4963: Jun 11th 2015 at 8:10:37 AM

[up] Define a "proper" trailer - I found that last one as a particular example how to make a trailer; suspenseful, implying instead of directly showing the audience, and not bothering to mention any details of the plot with the use of minimal dialogue between characters.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4965: Jun 12th 2015 at 1:14:28 PM

[up][up] Yeah, the last Force Awakens teaser really was a good example of how to make a trailer: Don't basically spoil the plot of the movie firsthand.

edited 12th Jun '15 1:14:55 PM by higherbrainpattern

ManchuCandidate Since: Dec, 2011
#4967: Jun 12th 2015 at 5:37:57 PM

Pretty sure we are getting a theatrical trailer at SDCC for the following reasons:

  • One: It is SDCC, this is where the major stuff is usually shown.
  • Two: TFA panel is in Hall H; companies typically only reserve that particular Hall if they are showing movie clips or a trailer.
  • Three: The SDCC panel is exactly one week before the release of Ant-Man which has long been rumored to have a TFA trailer attached to it.
  • Four: It is also roughly five months prior to TFA premier and most movies' first theatrical trailers are released about six months or so prior to the showing.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
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#4969: Jun 14th 2015 at 11:31:43 PM

I still really want that trooper set. A lot of those parts look wonderful for Mo C work.

but HOW?
FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#4970: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:49:05 AM

My Own Creation?

I assume that most of their gear is going to be imported from the stock Imperial Stormtrooper's that they were based upon. Honestly, I would like to see a new foot soldier look for the Rebellion/New Republic - the characteristic fleet trooper is appropriate for shipboard settings, but is pitifully ill-equipped for actual ground operations.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#4972: Jun 19th 2015 at 11:54:35 AM

Oh my god. Ackbar's back? Yes!!!.

And I don't care about Greg Grunberg.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#4973: Jun 19th 2015 at 11:57:40 AM

I thought Ackbar died in ROTJ.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#4975: Jun 19th 2015 at 12:00:52 PM

Nope? The only one who died was random A-wing pilot, whose sacrifice brought down the Executor.

The Imperial admiral died, though. Poor Piett.


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