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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#676: Oct 30th 2014 at 4:17:03 PM

I do kind of have to wonder why the Inspector who was killed didn't go on to use the Nail Gun on the bad guy, instead relying on the Dominator.

edited 30th Oct '14 4:17:24 PM by LDragon2

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#677: Oct 30th 2014 at 4:17:16 PM

[up][up]Yes, but the key difference between them is that Shogo had a grudge and a plan. Johann, on the other hand, functions entirely For the Evulz, and will talk people into crime as often as he will talk them into killing themselves. He doesn't want to shake the system, he just wants to hurt and destroy people as much as possible, to their very core. I can't imagine Shogo sending an orphan into a red-light district telling him to look for his mother there (with the caveat that, if he can't find her, it means she never wanted him). That's not kicking the dog, that's punting the puppy like a football, with studded iron boots, and taking a considerable run-up. Burning a library full of priceless old books for the sake of destroying the life work of one man is similarly petty and evil-minded. Johann takes evil and turns it into a professional, dispassionate vocation, devoid of any other consideration. such as goals or standards.

[up]Inspectors have been indoctrinated not to pass justice by themselves, relying instead on the Dominator and the SS to make the call.

wild mass guessOld man was freakishly strong and needed to breathe something constantly: he was breathing pure oxygen, which gave him the high needed for the strength. A more complicated cocktail of painkillers and other drugs might have been possible. But O2 is the first thing that came to mind.wild mass guess

edited 30th Oct '14 4:18:31 PM by TheHandle

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#678: Oct 30th 2014 at 5:23:48 PM

Oh my god, let me punch you right in your stupid face, Mika. You fucking worthless bitch. Never has there been an Inspector or law enforcement officer real or fictional that is as worthless as you are being right now.

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Marionnn in the deep Since: Jul, 2012
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#679: Oct 30th 2014 at 5:31:30 PM

Wow, I guess the only way Mika could be more obnoxious is if she stopped the enforcers from providing any help at all because said help was on orders from that partner she really resents, even if said help basically amounts to looking around.

Oh, wait.

Otherwise, the fact Hinakawa would have been able to identify a holo that even fooled Sybil on sight alone is pretty cool. Especially considering his lack of depth perception.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#680: Oct 30th 2014 at 5:42:09 PM

Shame that Kamui appeared to be the male with the nail gun that was inside, so he wouldn't be able to find him anyways.

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YuukiAsuna from New Aincrad Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
#681: Oct 30th 2014 at 6:25:49 PM

I don't really get what's with the hate for Mika, she's a very realistically written character given how she would have grown up with the culture around her, and even without it. Having no real idea of what to do and not wanting to mess up going on your own while simultaneously berating others for trying to take away from you your agency is human nature. In other words, noob inspector is noob. It's like I'm seeing Sword Art Online criticism in reverse.

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#682: Oct 30th 2014 at 6:29:35 PM

>implying the ciritcism leveled at SAO isn't completely valid

tongue

And no one said she was poorly written. We're just saying she's unlikeable. More than that, she's downright incompetent, and while that may fit her character from an in-universe perspective, it doesn't make it any less painful for us, the viewing audience. Especially now that she's gotten at least half a dozen civilians and even a fellow Inspector (who a lot of people were starting to like for reasons not entirely revolving around sex appeal) killed because of her stupid decisions.

edited 30th Oct '14 6:32:04 PM by KSPAM

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#683: Oct 30th 2014 at 6:31:24 PM

If it is completely valid, I don't see how anything of it in reverse is valid at all.

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#684: Oct 30th 2014 at 6:32:36 PM

That doesn't even make sense.

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YuukiAsuna from New Aincrad Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
#685: Oct 30th 2014 at 6:34:02 PM

We're just saying she's unlikeable. More than that, she's downright incompetent, and while that may fit her character from an in-universe perspective, it doesn't make it any less painful for us, the viewing audience.
Well-written things can be unlikeable by anyone not a mentally stunted idiot?

Have I wandered into an alternate universe?

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#686: Oct 30th 2014 at 6:40:00 PM

Yeah, they can. Especially if the writing does its job well portraying them as an incompetent asshole.

edited 30th Oct '14 6:41:19 PM by KSPAM

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Marionnn in the deep Since: Jul, 2012
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#687: Oct 30th 2014 at 7:13:22 PM

Regardless of whether it's justified, her behavior is grating. We get the point established back in episode 2 - she believes in the Sybil System absolutely and she disagrees with Akane on just about everything regarding their job. Anything else comes off as her being pointlessly contrary, which is annoying to watch, especially because we, the audience, because of last season and some logic, know Mika is actually completely wrong about the system, enforcers, things in general. That's okay on it's own, but since we know that, watching Mika be Mika so often is just damn frustrating.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#688: Oct 30th 2014 at 9:23:41 PM

Well, Mika was annoying before, but wow did she screw everything up now. Not going to feel bad when something happens to her. Everyone else was just following the system as they're been groomed to do, but Mika was literally doing nothing when she had every right to take the initiative. Good job. She's going to get Kunizuka killed isn't she?

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Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
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#689: Oct 30th 2014 at 11:37:40 PM

Mika...you're hurting me...

Also, good job for taking command. No, really. You said you were in charge, after all. So yes, good job. Good job for doing nothing but wait for further directives!

Gosh, you said you were in charge, so doesn't that mean you could've taken your own actions? At least doing your own thing and messing up is a lot better than doing nothing until another division took up arms and caused a bloodbath. And you also made a point about taking care of yourself after a year and a half on the force...

Of course, I may be seeing this whole thing wrongly. But I don't care. Mika...hope this teaches you a lesson...

And Ginoza won't be having another drink with Aoyanagi. Kinda sad that she was the first victim of the new Dominator. The Sibyl System sure did a bang-up job of breaking society's back...

edited 31st Oct '14 12:26:35 AM by Diamite

Ghost55 from Munich Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#690: Nov 1st 2014 at 5:37:17 AM

The end of this episode was horrific. Also, the Assault Dominator has created a new moral quandary of sorts: what does it mean to pass judgement without context. It's one thing to mindlessly pull the trigger when you can see the target, but doing the same when all you have is a number seems dangerous.

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Sykosis Dark Matter Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#691: Nov 1st 2014 at 3:39:07 PM

Not gonna lie, Mika fucked up. Hard.

But before this, you know what really pissed me off about her?

In an earlier episode, after hearing that Ginoza used to be an Inspector, she basically tells him and everyone else to their faces that it's BECAUSE he's no longer an Inspector and currently an Enforcer that she won't listen to what he says.

Geez, bitch. How would you respond if your own father died in front of you trying to save your life while you were helpless?

Pretty sure your Psycho-Pass would skyrocket. Cos not everyone is borderline Criminally Asymptomatic like Akane.


I really get 'salty' when 'protagonist' females get such unceremonious deaths in anime. Or just deaths in general.
But anyway.

Having watched Aldnoah Zero and heard about Urobutcher's interview on his misblaiming by the fandom with regards to Takillyama's decisions, his words "don't blame me if people die in Psycho-Pass 2" leave me internally laughing my ass off as I watch this series...

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#692: Nov 1st 2014 at 4:21:58 PM

Can't blame him. People die when bridges get dropped on them. Just ask Shirou.

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#693: Nov 1st 2014 at 6:12:33 PM

People were blaming him for Aldnoah? Huh.

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#694: Nov 2nd 2014 at 1:01:20 AM

It was inelegant and unsubtle, but the gorefest was at least hilarious.

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#695: Nov 2nd 2014 at 1:11:49 AM

I'm not sure how you could get it to be elegant and subtle while still retaining the point of everything that happened. Maybe engage in Tell, Don't Show?

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#696: Nov 2nd 2014 at 4:16:38 AM

[up] I was actually thinking that they should have avoided the gorefest in the first place.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#697: Nov 2nd 2014 at 4:30:39 AM

Or maybe make a Lethal Eliminator that works like an Avada Kedavra rather than Ludicrous Gibs. Does it really need to be so messy?

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#698: Nov 2nd 2014 at 6:10:24 AM

[up] But if they don't see parts of their body swelling and preparing to blow, how would people know they are being judged by Sybil?

majoraoftime Immanentizing the eschaton from UTC -3:00 Since: Jun, 2009
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#699: Nov 2nd 2014 at 6:37:29 AM

Does it really need to be so messy?

It's always nice to be sure.

But beyond that, the fact that the Sybil system discourages actual detective work is kind of a Thing in this show. Do the bare minimum needed to catch the suspect, but once you're there, Dominator them and throw them in the mental health centres if they survive. No Inspector wants to get too close to a case since their Psycho-Pass might go up and lose them their jobs.

Less awkward questions about the nature of the system get asked this way.

edited 2nd Nov '14 6:37:56 AM by majoraoftime

Ghost55 from Munich Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#700: Nov 2nd 2014 at 9:16:32 AM

[up][up][up] It needs to absolutely make sure that the person is dead. It would be pretty awkward if the target had a chance of surviving "judgement" wouldn't it? Ludicrous Gibs ensures that such a thing never happens.

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