Reorganising stickies

Searching the IP morgue can be mentioned in the first bullet of the last section of the IP policy/discussion thread, where it'd complement the bit about checking for hidden tags on a page. Nothing in the FAQ thread is really important or new; I don't see why either of the morgue threads need to stay pinned there. They should be merged and unstickied, or moved to the actual morgues, IMO.

edited 4th Aug '12 6:49:02 AM by Telcontar

Concerning Image Pickin', has anyone any objections at replacing the too quick pulls and subpages stickies with a "Images and Image Pickin'" introduction thread like "Welcome to TRS", as I drafted here?

I've been thinking about reorganizing those stickies, I just haven't had the time to focus on it.

I'm fine with that; remember a note to not care about bumping an old thread, since they're technically all active discussions. Would the IP discussion thread also be unstickied (and I assume unstickied threads would go to Wiki Talk)? I reckon that one is fine where it's at, due to all the stuff in the OP and such.

edited 6th Aug '12 9:56:16 AM by Telcontar

The IP policy and stuff thread can stay where it is, methinks. The "crowding" problem in IP isn't nearly as harmful as in TRS.

So, now that Special Efforts has been trimmed down...

I've had an idea about Trope Talk: Why not replace the current pinned threads with a locked one like Searching and proposing tropes and illustrating or indexing pages

edited 8th Aug '12 2:45:51 AM by SeptimusHeap

Bump to get opinions on .

Part of the reason for the very specific pinned thread titles in Trope Talk is to attract the gaze of the readers prior to posting. We need those titles to really pop out.

How about two pinned threads, with the following titles?

• How To Find or Suggest a Trope
• How To Suggest or Change a Page Image

I need to think about this a bit more.

Edit: I think the pinned threads in Trope Talk serve their intended purpose. I'm not sure we need to reorganize them.

edited 13th Aug '12 6:47:37 AM by Fighteer

Too many pinned threads are clutter. Plus, several of them can be merged together. Also, threads that should go to YKTTW or Lost And Found appear there regardless.

edited 13th Aug '12 6:55:44 AM by SeptimusHeap

Trope Talk has four. I remember you saying once that you considered that the ideal number; there's no problem there, and I don't really think any should be merged. It's now FAQ and Wiki Talk that have issues.

You remember correctly, except for the "because it's unlikely that less will be needed" bit, which doesn't fit for Trope Talk - all its pinned threads fit into one sticky.

On FAQ, I remember that the Morgue threads and the password thread were the bits we need to agree upon, while all the other can be unpinned (except for rules, announcements and what goes where). My idea on morgue is to shift them to their morgues and to rename Password (to Forgot My Password! (Please reset my account)) and unpin it since it's linked from what goes, Welcome To TV Tropes and easily searchable.

I'm fine with that for FAQ.

I still think TT is good as-is. It needs the titles of the LnF and YKTTW threads to be visible so that people will know better (though new threads that belong in one of those places still pop up). If for some reason they are merged, then the title should just be a combined version of their current ones, but that might exceed the character limit so it may be better to keep them separate. Posting Pics could be unstickied, I guess — it isn't hard and it's explained elsewhere, though I don't know how much that issue comes up in that forum. Which Indexes is a discussion thread, and shouldn't be merged into a locked one since it's unrelated to all the current stickies there.

edited 13th Aug '12 10:42:48 AM by Telcontar

Anyone else on FAQ?

Also, indexes should be linked from a sticky, not be a sticky.

edited 14th Aug '12 1:55:26 PM by Zeanobia

Anyone else for 36? I was about to holler for that but I'd prefer some more support for that.

Also, quick-analysis of other stickies in the right side subforums and suggested course of action for de-crowding and proper forum segregation:

• Wiki Talk:
  • Unlocking requests: This thread has nothing to do with wiki policy. It's better off in FAQ.
  • YKTTW workstation: It's a "Post request so that other people act upon" thread, so it goes in Special Efforts like NATTER ALERT, not in a policy subforum.
  • Get Help with English: This sounds again like a "request" thread and also for Special Efforts. Question is if it needs pinning, given the straightforward name.
  • Heralds: Fits with wiki policy, but even pinned it doesn't seem to attract much attention.
  • Media namespaces: Tangentially related to policy, seems like it goes to FAQ, but it can stay pinned here as well.
  • Banners: Goes to Special Efforts, like Trivia and Real Life section. Not worthy of a sticky either.
  • Sexual Subjects and 5P decisions and announcements are pinworthy but redundant. Can we repurpose the latter thread for both uses? (Not sure where to leave the thread, though)
  • YMMV In-Universe: Not pinworthy, but we need to add the markup to Text-Formatting Rules. I'll do that.
• Trope Repair Shop:
  • Welcome To The TRS shop: Is fine, but I think that a thread akin to IP policy sticky would be more useful, especially since the welcome thread links to several poorly updated and rename-biased threads.
• Image Pickin':
  • Image source needed: Is a "request" thread like Special Efforts and should go there, but I won't mind it staying.
  • Namespace Icons: Until the project is done, it can stay there.
  • IP policy: Fine i its place.
  • Too quick pulls and medium subpages: These both can be referenced in the IP policy OP and be moved to FAQ like it was done with the TRS threads last year.
• Content Violations:
  • Content Policy Discussion: Fine.
  • 5P decisions and announcements: See Wiki Talk:
  • The place for purging porn: Fine.
  • Page Restoration Petitions: While I'd prefer it to be unpinned and locked so that discussion can stay in the "purging porn" thread (as was done with perusal requests), I don't mind it staying.
  • Post-links Pertinent to the P5 Perusal Process: Fine.
• The Tech Wishlist threads are all fine, I'd say.
• Trope Talk:
  • What index(es) should this go on? is not just for tropes, and a "request" thread should go in Special Efforts. If it needs a reference here (so that people don't make threads in Trope Talk), a directory sticky can do that.
  • How To Post Pictures, Lost And Found is the place for finding tropes. and YKTTW is the place for proposing new tropes. can all be summed up in their own sticky so that it becomes easier to read the other threads. Plus, the fact that violating threads keep happening doesn't make me think the longer titles are helping.
• All the OTC stickies are fine, I think.
• Writer's Block has already a directory, but a number of stickies. Methinks we need a Writer's Block participant to tell.

Any comments here? Is this a feasible plan?

edited 21st Aug '12 9:25:54 AM by SeptimusHeap

Speaking as a P5 member, I agree with unpinning the Recommendations for Perusal thread; it can't hurt to copy the meat of Ccoa's post into the Announcements thread. I would, however, prefer keeping the Petitions thread separate from the Evaluations thread.

As a side note: to improve readability, could you break down the stickies by subforum instead of lumping them all together? (i.e. list the name of the subforum on a level 1 bullet and the stickied threads as sub-bullets or the like)

edited 17th Aug '12 12:35:32 PM by tdgoodrich1

If you want to keep the Petitions and the Place thread separate, I am fine with it. Also, implemented the bulleting within the limitations imposed by the presence of several annoying butterflies on my lappie (even worse than these flies that used it as a sex house)

Ok, the sticky change in CVD is done. Anyone else to comment on @40?

The YMMV In-Universe thread has been unpinned. Can we go ahead and holler for the banner thread to be moved? There's been no opposition, it clearly belongs in SE, and the Trivia thread there has been having trouble lately with YMMV things being added to the crowner — moving the thread may help reduce that.

Move requested. I also bring in this thread as a directory for some of the more frequent topics here.

Bumping. This still needs fixing, esp. in FAQ.

Another bump. I have hollered twice for the move of the TVT Bugs and Fixes thread from FAQ to Tech Wishlist, and I think Sep has also hollered; is there a specific reason that goes unanswered?

Also, did we settle on having a directory post here or not? I know there is now the stickied QAF thread, but that isn't the same thing.

Actually, I had a discussion with ccoa once about this. She said the mod forum had decided to leave to keep it in FAQ.

Ah, fair enough; thanks.

Hmm...

Could it work, or would it be worth it, to merge "Get help with English" and "Get example writing help" into "Get help with writing edits"? Neither thread is too high traffic and issues in the former (e.g. a zero-context or arguing example) are sometimes covered by the latter.