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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#801: Feb 17th 2016 at 1:36:17 PM

They are technically parody, so they should. Not 100% on the intricacies of it, though.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#802: Feb 17th 2016 at 1:40:53 PM

Would it depend on length or something?

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#803: Feb 17th 2016 at 1:53:28 PM

Hasn't DBZA more or less been given the okay by the source anyway? I mean they're literally famous; at least one of hem voiced a character in Xenoverse. Nappa, I think.

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#804: Feb 17th 2016 at 1:56:45 PM

That didn't stop Toei from taking down their videos and monetizing them when they got put back up.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#805: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:11:15 PM

I'm a little unclear on copyright, but from what I can gather, to not infringe on copyright and to fall under fair use, they have to be first, transformative and second, have to add something to the original.

Which people like for instance, Jinx, are not doing at all. All he does is record himself watching a video in its entirety and adding little to no useful commentary on it.

edited 17th Feb '16 2:11:44 PM by BaconManiac5000

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#806: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:15:27 PM

I do not know who is Jinx is. With Team Four Star, however, I think it's under protection, because they not only do new voice over work for it, they also have edited entire scenes differently than the original.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#807: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:16:11 PM

TFS was "approved" by Funimation (though they politely(?) asked to TFS to stop making Attack on Titan Abridged because it was too new or something), not Toei.

edited 17th Feb '16 2:16:27 PM by Karxrida

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#808: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:17:00 PM

TFS got into trouble with the Japanese company that made Attack on Titan, not Funimation.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#809: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:19:21 PM

Ah, okay.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#810: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:20:42 PM

I think it's under protection, because they not only do new voice over work for it, they also have edited entire scenes differently than the original.

Transformative and additive.

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#811: Feb 17th 2016 at 2:22:25 PM

From what I hear, some Japanese companies are really protective over their work if they perceive people are making fun of it. That's actually why it took years for the Gamera episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000 to get put on DVD, and why they still don't have the two Godzilla episodes on DVD.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#812: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:08:19 PM

It's not just that, Japanese games companies can get downright weird, Sega Japan once nuked several entire channel (including trying to strike at least one review/critical channel) simply so that they could improve the search rankings of a trailer for a sequel.

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#813: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:12:26 PM

That's not even getting into EMI's latest round of crap. They've almost purged not just You Tube, but almost every other video site in existence (including Vimeo and Dailymotion) in their attempt to, for whatever reason, remove The Beatles from being listened to outside of the VEVO channel that only has a few of their songs on it.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#814: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:14:24 PM

There was a small group called 5 Guys who made an abridged series on K-on!. Several of their videos got taken down and they eventually had to create an entirely new channel. They never finished the series.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#815: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:18:08 PM

Meh, pulling actual copywrited music is fair enough, in the end it is being illegally uploaded. But pulling legitimate transformative works and even censoring what amounts press criticism, for search rankings, that's batshit.

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#816: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:27:08 PM

I think Weird Al has had a lot of problems with copyright. He's had a lot of bad blood with Atlantic Records that the music video for White and Nerdy has him editing their Wikipedia page to read "YOU SUCK" (yes, in all caps).

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#817: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:33:41 PM

Wait, aren't the Beatles' songs alread okayed for use on You Tube? I know I've seen unauthorized videos using Beatles songs that were monetized in a way that pays out royalties to the rights holders.

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#818: Feb 17th 2016 at 6:36:00 PM

I have no clue, all I know is that one day they were there, then they weren't, and now hardly anywhere has them.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#819: Feb 17th 2016 at 9:29:38 PM

That's not the video being legal, it's still an illegal upload, however the copywrite holder can choose to monetise the video and take the money if they want, why they sometimes do that and sometimes issue a takedown I don't know.

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#820: Feb 17th 2016 at 11:01:26 PM

But then there's the fact that if you're putting the song in YT's database to automatically monetize it when it's used, then you're giving implicit permission for people to use it, from which you would reap the royalties. Like, if you didn't want people to do that in the first place, show some consistency.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#821: Feb 17th 2016 at 11:24:50 PM

Abridging falls under fairuse due to it being a parody but at the same time no abridger can directly monetize from the abridged either since they are directly using copyrighted footage.

But yeah, youtube's Content ID and Copyright claim system is total bullshit. Jim Sterling has been complaining about this stuff for years. As long as someone can make claim with no possibility of consequences they are going to keep doing it.

edited 17th Feb '16 11:26:30 PM by Lionheart0

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#822: Feb 18th 2016 at 4:12:29 AM

You think we could get a bill passed that deals with this or something?

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#823: Feb 18th 2016 at 6:37:36 AM

Nope, it's not a problem with the law, it's a problem with You Tube, You Tube could change it tomorrow so that after X number of false claims any claims you make have to be approved by a person before a takedown, or after suffering X number of false claims claims against you no longer result in an automatic takedown.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#824: Feb 18th 2016 at 7:07:02 AM

CR of Familiar Faces, Josh Scourcher, Dr. Wolf, and Anime America have so far all made videos supporting Doug Walker's #WTFU movement.

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#825: Feb 18th 2016 at 10:15:12 AM

Yes, like that accomplishes anything on You Tube.

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