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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#352: Oct 21st 2014 at 9:40:41 PM

The Soldier in Team Fortress 2 is listed as one, despite not having a Scrappy listing. I've played TF 2 for quite a while and I've never come across someone who said they disliked him, especially when he's Crazy Awesome and many of his lines fall under Crowning Moment Of Funny.

  • Creator's Pet: Soldier is getting there. He currently has more sets than any other class, and he happens to be Robin Walker's favorite character.

Should I nuke it?

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#354: Oct 21st 2014 at 10:49:03 PM

Nothing TF 2 fits either trope. All characters are popular enough.

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Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
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#355: Oct 31st 2014 at 11:21:05 AM

Ooh, got an easy cut here from Elementary:

  • Creator's Pet: Joan. By the end of Season 2 not only is she a memetic badass and an even better detective than Sherlock, come season 3 when Shelock comes looking for his old consulting postition back, Gregson tells him that it's Joan's decision to make, since he can afford to lose Sherlock, but not Joan.

I can't speak to the truth of the description and have only watched an episode or 2, but Joan is a genderflipped John Watson- which is to say that she's the secondary (or arguably primary) protagonist of the show- which pretty much rules out her being a Creator's Pet.

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#356: Oct 31st 2014 at 11:26:20 AM

Also, "memetic badass" is a positive audience reaction, which contradicts the scrappy requirement.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#357: Oct 31st 2014 at 12:58:11 PM

So I have a question about "beloved by the writers."

An example I'm thinking of has no Word of God or anything supporting it, but what it does have is the fact that him being written out of the show was supposed to be a tragic moment, except that all the fans thought of him as The Scrappy and were pretty unanimously happy to see him leave (and are only sad because nothing bad happened to him).

To me, that shows the disconnect between writers' preference to viewers' preference that's in line with this that it seems like it would count.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#358: Oct 31st 2014 at 1:27:18 PM

That the character was written out of the show could be an indication that the creators realised it wasn't a popular character, and it being tragic could easily be what would make sense if that happened in the story. Just because fans dislike a character doesn't mean the other characters would share the same dislike, and switching to that would break the characterisation.

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Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
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#359: Oct 31st 2014 at 1:30:30 PM

[up][up] Can you tell us who the character is? (I think [up] is on point though).

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#360: Oct 31st 2014 at 2:00:53 PM

Don from How I Met Your Mother. He's a Romantic False Lead. The writers knew who the woman he was dating was going to end up with for years, so he was going to be written out anyway.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#361: Oct 31st 2014 at 2:17:05 PM

How much was he in scenes not related to that romance plot?

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#362: Oct 31st 2014 at 2:27:59 PM

[up][up] Going to have to disagree, he was never meant to be likable, seeing how two main characters were after his girlfriend, and had his character arc then got written out when his arc was complete to send a message to Robin on Career Vs Relationships.

As well as he never really appeared in any scene that did not contain Robin.

edited 31st Oct '14 2:29:24 PM by Memers

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#363: Oct 31st 2014 at 2:42:12 PM

Which probably would mean he's doesn't have any excessive Character Focus, which makes him disqualified. Unless he appeared in a lot of unrelated scenes where they did things he'd normally not be expected to join in on.

edited 31st Oct '14 2:42:58 PM by AnotherDuck

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#364: Nov 17th 2014 at 4:02:52 PM

This example counts?:

Even for the main character, Tagiru's screentime utterly eclipses everyone else's, including the former hero of last two arcs, Taiki. He also gets almost all the Digimon wreaking havoc, even if the others do the work for him, and Taiki and Yuu hardly ever call him out for screwing over their plans. Practically none of the main cast sans him even get a proper goodbye with their partners in the end.

Due to the events of the finale, many are calling Canon Sue on him as well, as even though there's a literal army of heroes from all past Digimon shows on the scene, none of them partake in the final battle and merely serve as power ups for Tagiru, who fights it alone.

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#365: Nov 17th 2014 at 4:26:38 PM

By definition, the main character can't qualify.

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#367: Dec 2nd 2014 at 7:50:05 AM

I found Movie!Hermione on Harry Potter

  • Creator's Pet: Hermione, to a lot of people. She is known to be Steve Kloves, the screenwriter's, favorite character, which is reportedly why Rowling personally picked him for the job. While in the first two films she was portrayed fairly close to her role in the books while still getting some lines and moments that originally belonged to other characters, the third film prettied her up considerably (though this may have just been how the actress grew up), gave her most of Ron's better lines (while Ron was practically a straight up coward while also made out to be even dumber than he was in the books - which in turn actually led to later books portraying him as dumber than originally presented), had her wear pink, and generally portrayed her to be the leader of the Trio who could do no wrong. The fourth film, too, calls a lot of attention to how beautiful she apparently is. By the last film, this is toned down considerably (Ron actually figures out two important plot points before she does, for instance), but is still vaguely present; for example, she is still given scenes and actions of other characters (which as stated above was also a problem in the earlier films), like being the one to decide to use the dragon to ride out of Gringotts as opposed to Harry.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#368: Dec 2nd 2014 at 2:22:58 PM

Hermione is one, relatively popular, and two, a main character. No.

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#369: Dec 3rd 2014 at 4:50:14 PM

I think "a lot of people" is the editor and the pet mouse in their pocket, from very brief glances at the HP fandom I've seen through the internet. tongue

[edit](Well, okay, not that bad, but definitely not a majority of what I've seen of the fandom.)[/edit]

As [up] said, main character, so not a CP.

edited 3rd Dec '14 4:56:27 PM by Nohbody

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#370: Dec 3rd 2014 at 6:04:56 PM

"A lot of people" is one of those phrases to watch out for here and on The Scrappy. If you can't confidently write it as "most people", then it probably doesn't fit.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#372: Dec 22nd 2014 at 1:17:10 PM

Ax it. Main characters do not belong in Creator's Pet.

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#373: Dec 22nd 2014 at 1:18:26 PM

Okay, thanks.

edited 22nd Dec '14 1:20:32 PM by MagBas

MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#374: Dec 22nd 2014 at 5:01:27 PM

  • Doki Doki Pretty Cure has the main character, Mana Aida aka Cure Heart, who is heavily disliked by a portion of the fanbase for being a massive Spotlight-Stealing Squad. It doesn't help that the series' Mid-Season Upgrade and 11th-Hour Superpower involve all of the other Cures giving their powers to Cure Heart, when the Pretty Cure franchise overall typically emphasizes the power of teamwork, or that the creators have outright admitted having an emotional attachment to her, to the point of dropping some storyline elements to give her more focus.

This example is misuse, right?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#375: Dec 23rd 2014 at 1:01:15 AM

Aye, obvious misuse is obvious. Hammer it.

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