Sexism

"This film is sexist and homophobic. Eh, whatever. Oh, wait, Adam Sandler is in it. It's off the list!"

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Actually Adam Sandler spearheading it pretty much gurantees sexism and homophobia by default. As well as mind-numbing stupidity in a general sense.

Of course, it sells like pancakes.

edited 25th Jul '15 8:56:11 AM by TheHandle

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I think it's more that Adam Sandler being in it can be taken as a good indication that there will be plenty of stupid teenage boy style sexism and homophobia.

Which is a real shame, I was looking forward to that film.

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The presence of Adam Sandler is the proverbial straw for me. I wouldn't have posted the article if I thought that it otherwise sounded like a decent movie - which it doesn't. It sounds like a shitty fanfic that somehow got a movie deal.

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I wasn't really disagreeing with the sentiment. It's just kinda funny that when some random person says something is sexist and homophobic, it's taken as an opinion that may or may not reflect reality, while just mentioning that he's in it basically confirms it, as if he's a bigger insult than saying something is sexist and homophobic. Which he kind of is, since you can add general asshattery to that.

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And somehow they got Peter Dinklage and Sean Bean for this film.

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More to the point, it's literally the plot of a Futurama episode.

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I will eventually watch the movie, but with low expectations, I'm already expecting the best scene not being from Adam Sandler.

Yeah but much more poorly executed as it seems.

edited 25th Jul '15 12:00:10 PM by AngelusNox

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Not related to the current topic, but something that came up in a conversation I had recently that I thought was worth sharing.

I was talking to someone about the American attitude on professional soccer — specifically, the fact that women's soccer seems to get much more attention than men's. I was of the opinion that it's because the US women's team does a lot better than the US men's team. The women's team just won the world cup, after all, while I believe the best the men's team has ever done is make it to the quarter finals.

They pointed out another possible explanation. America, as a whole, sees soccer as a girl's sport. The attitude is that male athletes play football or baseball or basketball, but if girls want to play soccer, then good for them! It's kinda like a real sport, anyway, which is better than nothing.

Sad as it is, I think he may well have been on to something there. What do you all think?

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First explanation correct, second is corrolary of first. See history of high heels and cheerleading: if girls start doing something a lot, that thing gets cooties.

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It's "kinda like" a real sport?

I could make you play a true sport, in the manly way
But I'll teach you soccer instead, because you're a girl.
And I want to discourage you
And I want to talk you down
And I will mock whichever sport you choose.

edited 25th Jul '15 3:18:22 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

One other theory (based on personal anecdote) that may relate to the second theory- I think Bend It Like Beckham is likely the only soccer-related media known to most Americans, and that's about women's soccer. I'm aware of some British works about famous (Men's) World Cup events (although I can't think of those offhand), but those are about soccer fans, not players.

The economic cost of rape.

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Maybe we should stop using the term "survivors" to refer to rapees? It maintains the myth of "assault and battery in a parking lot or a dark alley by a stranger in a hoodie", getting in the way of raising awareness that rape is most often committed by familiar people, in familiar places, and in ways that aren't life-threatening. Such as, as the article itself notes, at the hands of your life partner and father of your children, on whom the family depends for survival.

The other troubles with reporting rape are again a massive symptom of the great ill of poverty and lack of social safety nets and labour rights. If you're rich, reporting rape is not a problem. If you aren't, doing so might kill you, and not even at the hands of the rapist.

I had a punkish friend from San Francisco who, given the way the US judicial system worked, preferred collective, vigilante justice. Their solutions tended to be fearsome.

edited 28th Jul '15 2:05:55 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

I don't like the rape victims are survivors of an awful event that should traumatize you for life.

It is horrible but treating it as a point of no return does no one any good, as soon as we stop treating people like unrepairable victims the better. Giving people back their normalcy helps recovery [[Understatement a lot more]] than reminding them of what happened.

Egalitarian and equal societies have very little rape and sexual assault statistics, the Nordics and Scandinavian countries (sans Sweden) rank very well on social equity and low rape and crime statistics.

So do the wealthier parts of the US, Europe and Latin America. Certainly more could be done to reduce sexism by making men and women as relevant as each other in economic and political matters, but no one can really make a silver bullet solution. What would work in the US may not work in India and the realities of the Brazilian poor are very different from the realities from the poor in Europe.

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Sweden has higher rape statistics because of different ways of measuring what one case of rape means. But that's perhaps a different topic.

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I think it might fit in the general topic. Different perceptions and measurements of what is rape or not can also be interpreted as a sign of sexism.

edited 28th Jul '15 2:47:48 PM by Quag15

Well, here every incident for every person involved is counted. Say two perps rape two victims twice in one night. Some would count that as one. Some could count that as two. Some would count it as four. Here it would count as eight.

And since rape is not a very positive statistic to have a high number in, most countries favour what makes them look better. It's the same for suicides, which is seen as shameful. Which, incidentally, Sweden also has a reputation for.

The idea (or at least one idea) is to make it more visible as a problem, so that people will take it more seriously. Hiding problems doesn't do anyone any favours. Well, other than the perps.

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Marry your girlfriend or go to jail.

Uh...so...Mr. Judge, your honor, who was this sentence supposed to punish again?

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Probation and writing bible sentences?

I know this is Texas and all but this is ridiculous. That judge needs to get fired immediately.

Oh really when?

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2 years probation, Marriage, and Bible Verses.

15 days in Jail.

The Jail time honestly sounds better, especially if he was incarcerated at all before trial he can get time served.

-Laughs-

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If it wasn't for the physical assault, I'd compare it to the case where one old man chose jail instead of going back to his house and listen to his wife's nagging.

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Wait... What's stopping them from getting a divorce right away?