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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2301: Apr 27th 2014 at 10:38:33 PM

[up] Wow, Gizmo sounds...just really lame.

As for the Ravager and Tim Drake concerns, we had Superman and Zod, who have literally the exact same powers, and they were pretty significantly different. Similarity in available tools doesn't have to translate to similarity in movesets.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2302: Apr 28th 2014 at 10:08:00 AM

I thought Zod was more of a gadget character, though granted I've yet to play his DLC.

But to compare, Superman only really has Zod who has the exact same capabilities and as him (since they went a totally different route with Wonder Woman) - most characters have a counterpart in some way (there's also Sinestro and GL, for instance), but it's usually limited to the one.

Tim Drake, on the other hand, has Batman, Batgirl and Nightwing who have all already explored that concept to an extent (and even arguably Deathstroke) - even if they do find a way to make him unique (like, say, emphasizing his use of the staff in a way that's distinct from Nightwing's), they're going to get criticism for treading the same ground again.

This is all for the sake of argument - I do agree that Tim Drake should be in this game - but it's a legitimate concern.

edited 28th Apr '14 10:09:30 AM by KnownUnknown

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2303: Apr 28th 2014 at 11:52:50 AM

Eh. Nightwing focuses more on his Escrima sticks than the myriad of gadgets the Bat Family is known for. Batgirl is closer to Batman, but she has the gauntlet thing going on for her. I don't know why you bring up Deathstroke, since he's the antithesis of everything Batman stands for, what with the majority of his moveset being composed of guns.

And again, you're confusing similarity of ability with similarity of moves. Most gadget characters are going to be pretty similar. But there's ways to make them play very differently.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2304: Apr 28th 2014 at 1:57:24 PM

I just suggested a way that Tim could have vastly different moves, actually. But the similarity is still going to bring criticism - he uses the same tools as Batgirl and Nightwing (much moreso than Damien or Jason, because Tim tends to keep his arsenal fairly simple), which means not matter what they do he's still going to be in some ways another take on a template we've seen several times before.

edited 28th Apr '14 1:58:07 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2305: Apr 28th 2014 at 2:05:27 PM

/doesn't care

It'll be the what, fourth character like that? Out of a proposed roster of 48? People will learn to deal.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2306: Apr 28th 2014 at 2:09:28 PM

<shrug> It's something that a game designer would probably think about, is all. This isn't just one of those "a character is superficially similar, so obviously they would be a clone" situations (though some people probably are going to try and say that), but there's only so many riffs you can do off of a similar theme before people notice and people were up in arms about there being too many Batman-esque characters in this game already.

As much as I love Tim and wish either he or Cassandra had gotten in during the last round of DLC, he does have a bit going against him.

edited 28th Apr '14 2:18:01 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2307: Apr 28th 2014 at 2:17:55 PM

That's because out of the initial 12 villains, 4 were Batman characters. I don't think anybody really complained about Batman and Nightwing both being in.

And people complained about the DLC in general until Martian Manhunter and Zatanna came out.

Tim really isn't the one I was expecting pushback on, considering there's a character on there who doesn't even have a proper physical form.

EDIT: Although, interestingly, if you leave Ravager as a villain, the numbers are still equal. I hadn't realized that.

edited 28th Apr '14 2:33:10 PM by BadWolf21

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2308: May 1st 2014 at 6:30:02 PM

Have any of you guys read the prequel comic?

I have read the first volume (which ends when Batman forms the Insurgency), and I like it.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2309: May 6th 2014 at 10:11:06 AM

Ed Boon is counting down days on Twitter, leading up to June 2.

Why? Not a clue. Could be an Injustice sequel announcement, could be a Mortal Kombat 10 announcement, could be be both, probably isn't neither.

edited 6th May '14 10:11:18 AM by BadWolf21

ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#2310: Sep 19th 2014 at 9:05:16 AM

So I'm sorry for giving this a bump, but seeing that there is a sequel announcement, what do you think the plot would be like?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2311: Sep 19th 2014 at 9:15:01 AM

Well, we know Regime Superman still has some power in his prison.

That's about all I've got.

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#2312: Sep 19th 2014 at 11:52:23 AM

So it seems like almost everybody in the original Injustice got an arch-enemy/rival (Lantern/Sinestro, Supes/Zod/Luthor, Batman/Joker, Nightwing/Bane, Captain Marvel/Black Adam, Wonder Woman/Ares, Flash/Grundy). So what's the deal with Killer Frost? Is she a Green Arrow rogue? He doesn't seem to have a rival, nor does Aquaman. I hope the sequel gets the Dark Archer or Ra's al-Ghul for Green Arrow's rival.

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#2313: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:04:30 PM

I'm still thinking that possibly the next sequel is about Trigon. For these facts:

  • Regime Raven wasn't seen anywhere in the ending. She might still be plotting to resurrect daddy.
  • Regime Superman was the only force that would be capable of beating Trigon into submission (he could have done so to Ares) without mercy, but he's arrested and heavily depowered and so are most heroes in the Regime verse. Basically a big chance for Regime Raven to release Trigon.
  • Trigon usually contended against the Teen Titans, always touted that he's the equivalent of Satan... and we never see him fighting the Justice League. So... pit them together for once.

That and still hoping they'd fix some Demoted to Extra characters and make them shine in the sequel. Talking about you all, Mainstream Shazam, Nightwing, Raven and Hawkgirl.

edited 19th Sep '14 6:05:07 PM by ChrisX

ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#2314: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:08:36 PM

I'm thinking Earth-3 and the Crime Syndicate.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2315: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:16:14 PM

Earth 3 makes no sense because we're not dealing with any mainstream universes to begin with.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2316: Oct 21st 2015 at 7:16:56 PM

If anyone's still playing the mobile version (I am), a huge update dropped today. Here are all the characters added:

  • CW Flash
  • CW Reverse Flash
  • Arkham Knight
  • Arkham Knight Batman
  • Arkham Knight Harley Quinn
  • Blackest Night Martian Manhunter
  • Red Lantern Hal Jordan
  • Justice League Wonder Woman

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#2317: Oct 23rd 2015 at 9:13:41 AM

Are Arkham Knight and Reverse Flash separate characters or costumes for Batman and Flash?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2318: Oct 23rd 2015 at 9:28:28 AM

And are they voiced by Grant Gustin and Tom Cavanagh?

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2319: Oct 23rd 2015 at 9:37:02 AM

And yet console version owners get nothing, I presume?

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#2321: Oct 23rd 2015 at 9:44:45 AM

[up][up][up][up] I have no idea. They're not out yet.

[up][up][up] The mobile version has barely any voice acting. The only actual word I think gets said is when Black Adam shouts "Shazam" in his super move. They'll probably just use the generic grunts.

[up][up] It's much less expensive to make mobile characters than console characters, who require much better models and full movesets. Console support has been done for over a year now. The game is complete there.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2322: Feb 12th 2016 at 3:55:10 PM

Sorry for the thread necro, but I wanted to announced the limited time sale on PSN for the Ultimate Edition. 5.99.

You have until 2/15 to get it at this price.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#2323: May 30th 2016 at 9:10:23 AM

2 might be announced at E3.

edited 30th May '16 9:22:52 AM by LordofLore

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