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pinkiepi314 Since: Mar, 2012
#1: May 25th 2012 at 9:18:50 AM

Though the current image is an example, there's nothing in the picture to show that. Also, a fictional image would be preferable to a real life image. A much better picture would be Azula and her Dai Li agents from Avatar.

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#2: May 25th 2012 at 9:41:16 AM

Good example, bad pic.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#3: May 25th 2012 at 9:57:50 AM

This was pretty much the first (actually the second pic) on GIS. [1]*

You'll have to scroll down almost halfway. I didn't find a good picture of Azula, though, at least in her Fire Nation clothes. Showing her with Earth Nation clothes kind of misses the point.

edited 25th May '12 9:58:22 AM by Feather7603

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#4: May 25th 2012 at 7:29:52 PM

It is impossible to 100% demonstrate this trope with any one picture, because you can't prove the the bodyguards are of foreign nationality to the person being guarded, baring some sort of side-by-side comparison of their passports and such.

So, since that is the case, I'd rather have a picture that is an example than no picture at all.

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#5: May 25th 2012 at 10:24:03 PM

[up]You sort of can, if you find a pic where the two cultures are different enough to separate by clothing styles.

The problem I have with the current is that I see no cadre, no foreign, and just a sword to imply the guard part.

Edit:

Maybe something like this, or a screencapture of this?

edited 25th May '12 10:33:14 PM by Feather7603

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#6: May 26th 2012 at 5:07:00 AM

The Malays aren't really a proper example. They are one of the many units from around the world that spent a just a brief time doing ceremonial guard duty outside one of many palaces for public relations reason. They aren't a unit of foreigners dedicated to the full time personal protection of the Queen.

Still, I suppose there is something to be said for putting in a picture that at least includes the person being guarded.

Still, I suppose there is something to be said for having a picture that is a bit more martial, includes the person being guarded, and has more than one guard.

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edited 26th May '12 6:23:27 AM by Catbert

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#7: May 26th 2012 at 5:28:50 AM

[up]Well, it's an improvement, at least.

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#8: May 26th 2012 at 6:16:03 AM

[up][up] Definite improvement

edited 26th May '12 6:16:37 AM by Willbyr

pinkiepi314 Since: Mar, 2012
#9: May 26th 2012 at 9:21:48 AM

Here are a few pictures from Avatar:

[1] [2] [3]

edited 26th May '12 9:22:21 AM by pinkiepi314

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#10: May 26th 2012 at 9:25:00 AM

[Note: If you get a "forbidden" notice on the images linked above, just press enter and it's fine.]

I prefer the image in post 6 to those. The first is at an unclear angle, the second would be a very small image, and I don't get "foreign" from any of them, really.

edited 26th May '12 9:25:21 AM by Telcontar

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pinkiepi314 Since: Mar, 2012
#11: May 26th 2012 at 9:31:01 AM

The differently colored uniforms make it clear that they're foreign. Here are some better ones, without watermarks:

[1] [2] [3] [4]

IMO, number 3 is the clearest.

edited 26th May '12 9:31:32 AM by pinkiepi314

Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#12: May 26th 2012 at 9:33:05 AM

Different colors of uniform don't make it clear that they're foreign, though. Guards at Buckingham Palace wear red and black, Queen Elizabeth often wears pale blue, yellow, or green, but they're definitely from the same country.

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#13: May 26th 2012 at 10:13:50 AM

The differently colored uniforms make it clear that they're foreign.

By that logic, US Marines and US Army are from different countries...

Got a suggestion, though they are different species AND nationalities (Though the examples also include different species examples):

edited 26th May '12 10:18:01 AM by Ghilz

pinkiepi314 Since: Mar, 2012
#14: May 26th 2012 at 10:19:17 AM

In Avatar, the different colors do indicate different nationalities. The Fire Nation wears red, the Earth Kingdom wears green/brown, etc. The uniforms are also in clearly different styles.

edited 26th May '12 10:19:53 AM by pinkiepi314

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#15: May 26th 2012 at 10:22:45 AM

[up][up] That's really good; clear on both counts.

[up] Thing is, not everyone has seen Avatar. To me, it's just different clothing style in the same way that you and I are (probably!) wearing different kinds of clothing.

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#16: May 26th 2012 at 10:23:26 AM

[up][up] People who have not watched Avatar would not know that, would they? And that's not counting that the rule is hardly set in stone, like with Jet's gang, all Earth Nation, all wearing Red and Blue. Or In Legend Of Korra, where the color system is far less present.

Also, the image quality are all terrible. Either Azula is barely visible, or the Dai Li are.

edited 26th May '12 10:23:36 AM by Ghilz

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#18: May 26th 2012 at 10:35:16 AM

I'm afraid I don't get "bodyguard" from either of those, and they're not as strong on the "foreign" as #6 or #13.

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#19: May 26th 2012 at 10:37:28 AM

True. Though with the Swiss Army Guards, you'd really need to know they are, in fact, swiss. Because the uniform is more tied with the Papal guard than Switzerland, and because it's white dudes guarding another white dude.

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#20: May 26th 2012 at 11:12:02 AM

I think #13 works the best so far, even if there's only one bodyguard (though it does say bodyguard more clearly than just guard). It requires the least knowledge about the setting.

edited 26th May '12 11:12:46 AM by Feather7603

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#21: May 26th 2012 at 1:20:03 PM

#13 is sweet but it's not a "cadre", it's only one. Is that a problem?

edited 26th May '12 1:20:14 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#22: May 26th 2012 at 4:05:40 PM

It's the least of the problems of the pictures presented so far.

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#23: May 26th 2012 at 8:44:14 PM

Again, it is impossible to conclusively demonstrate "Foreign" from just the look of the guard, whether it be uniform, equipment or physiological appearance, without some knowledge of the setting. This will be a problem in any example, fictional or Real Life. So, that being the case, we should just go with a rather notable and historically significant example.

Here is another Swiss Guard pic.

edited 26th May '12 8:44:56 PM by Catbert

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#24: May 26th 2012 at 10:23:58 PM

It's not impossible. 'Foreign' could mean something besides 'from another country'. Could have, say, orcs guarding a dwarf.

edited 26th May '12 10:32:02 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#25: May 26th 2012 at 10:30:46 PM

[up] Considering one of the examples includes Aliens hiring out humans, it seems to fit.

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