If the Spectacular Spider-Man continued...

..then what storylines/characters would you love to see? We've got quite a few lose ends.

As someone who admittedly doesn't know enough about Spider Man lore, I'm impartial to what kind of homages and references we'd see in the show.

All I'd want is Sally Avril to get some character development in the positive direction. I mean, hey, if Flash could become likable, why not the biggest student jerk in the series?

<shrug> Alright, I'll bite. Might as well get my two cents in before this thread devolves into an Ultimate Spiderman hatedom.

Er... for Sally, I'd've loved to have seen the whole Bluebird storyline. Same with Hobie becoming Prowler and the whole Hobgoblin debacle.

We would have eventually gotten Hobgoblin filling the hole the green goblin left, along with Scorpion and Hydro-man.

I'd like to think Pete would have found a way to help Marc /Molten Man (if he found out that the Goblin manipulated him and all).

And of course, the stuff with Gwen and Harry.

Molten Man becoming an Anti-Hero or even a true hero is pretty much a given - it's where he went in the comics and given how sympathetic he was in the show it's probably where he was heading there.

Before anyone asks why it was cancelled to make Ultimate Spider-Man, read this http://tinyurl.com/cqe885d

Yeah, I know. Bad corporate timing and all that. But, admittedly, I'm never terribly torn up about a good show ending as long as we get a kickass fanfic or two.

Also, I really hope this doesn't turn into an Ultimate-bashing thread. Granted, I haven't seen the show, but it's not its fault Spec was cancelled and picked a pretty tough act to follow. As one of the few The Batman fans, I know that feel.

Anyways, Hobgoblin (possibly Kingsley) probably takes the rein of the Pumpkinheads by masquerading as the Green Goblin. Mac Gargan somehow becomes the Scorpion. The Symbiote's still out there, so Carnage would pop up. Though I've got no idea how you'd write Carnage, as he seems rather...generic. I hadn't thought about Mark Allan turning in the heroic direction, but the poor guy does deserve a happy ending.

Morris Bench becoming Hydro-Man would be a given. Maybe in a storyline like: Bench couldn't get a demolition contract after word got out about his charges nearly killing Osborn, Menken, Parker, and himself, and so had to accept a high-risk high-pay demolition job (bonus points if it's from an earlier Big Bad) that turns him into Hydro-Man. Still, I'm curious how they'd make him different in origin, power and personality-wise from their version of the Sandman.

Oh! And Miles Warren! What do you think they were setting him up for? I know in the comics he starts the clone saga, but after reading various synopses of it, it seems like it would be tricky to do well.

My Idea for Season 3 was:

Mary Jane ends up getting closer to Peter due to him being ostrocized by Gwen and Harry At this point, Harry is pretty much guilting Gwen to break off her friendship with Peter]]. [[Matchmaker Crush Despite shipping Peter/Gwen, MJ develops feelings for Peter.

Continuing Flash's Character Devlopement, his new relationship has managed to to cause him to mellow out towards Peter.

Mini arc dedicated to Spider-Man and The Lizard: Peter starts to have mutation problems as does a returning Curt Connors.

Mini Arc dedicated to Black Cat: Black Cat ends up working for Tombstone in retribution for Spider-Man leaving her father in prison. She eventually learns Peter's identity and switch allienances.

Finale: Eventually Gwen dumps Harry, and he fully loses sanity and becomes the Hobgoblin. He attempts to throw Gwen off a bridge. Peter saves her, she doesn't die, and Harry ends up in an asylum. The final tag is of Miles Warren and Norman Osborn starting the cloning process.

edited 23rd May '12 2:00:24 PM by Lionheart0

At the time Greg said no one would die - particularly Gwen - over the course of the show, right?

I know how you feel: when I was younger I hated The Batman because it wasn't Batman The Animated Series, but as I got older and realized how immature I was being I took another look and realized how good the the show could be - even if it took a few episodes for it to Grow the Beard . I took that as a general lesson - appreciate things for their own merits, not endlessly compare them to things that they shouldn't be.

That said, The Batman's version of Mr. Freeze was pretty disappointing even disregarding that he didn't follow BTAS' story... but he's one of the few characters in the show like that.

edited 23rd May '12 2:04:30 PM by KnownUnknown

You are correct. Greg said his plans were to a DTV continuation of the series with Peter and the gang in college. And only then would Gwen possibly die.

I agree, but my theory behind the whole The Batman writing Mr. Freeze as a common thug was that there was pretty much no way they could top Batman The Animated Series Mr. Freeze. So they took him in a completely different direction! Regardless, I still believe Batman The Animated Series is the stronger of the two on the whole, but I do have a soft spot for the character designs and subplots in The Batman.

I do like the idea of MJ eventually developing feelings for Peter while Harry and Gwen are dating, as kinda a parallel to Gwen and Harry dating back while Liz and Peter were together. It sorta fits the whole "pairing shuffle" that happens throughout the show. I'm not sure I want Harry to become an outright villain and end up in Ravencroft, though. He seems headed down that path, but I have faith that he'll snap himself out of it before he goes too far. He'll stop before he turns into his father, that's for sure.

Additionally, my personal wish list would include more obscure female villains! White Rabbit, Calypso, Stunner, a Parody Sue Take That! version of Carlie Cooper, etc.

It's a damn shame how Spectacular introduced so many characters and was then cancelled before using them - Kingsley, Calypso, Bench, etc, etc, etc. As the cancellation approached so many characters that already existed were getting development too: Sally, Hobie, Mark, etc.

Harry was getting into a dark and very interesting place, Sandman was going well into the Anti-Villain / Anti-Hero territory, and all things considered the plots were getting really, really good.

Tis a shame, really.

That said, I don't thing Greg's the kind of writer who would waste character potential by making a character a Sue merely for the sake of a Take That!.

I dunno... it kind of felt like the old direction. That's why before BTAS the character dead and totally forgotten: there really was nothing to him besides "guy with ice powers."

Bane was in the same boat on the show, and Killer Croc and Firefly almost risked falling into the same trap but managed to get out of it via sheer personality (Firefly later got a more focused episode towards the end, as well).

edited 23rd May '12 3:21:07 PM by KnownUnknown

I'm convinced Carnage is impossible to get right in children's oriented animation, so I don't think he would have shown up eventually.

Which then begs the question: what else can you do with the Symbiote? If Carnage wasn't going to appear, why even bother keeping Symby alive after Eddie Brock's story arc ended? Was the Symbiote going to bond with Mac Gargan to create the Scorpion, as sort of a homage to his time as Venom in the comics? Would it reunite with Eddie Brock yet again?

I had the idea that they would do something influenced by Ultimate Marvel and have the symbiote bond with Gwen or something.

Man, I had no idea about this show. It looks pretty cool. Obviously, it could never be as good as the 1990's version, but from quickly looking at clips on Youtube, I'm sad that it was cancelled.

However, regarding the OP, I can tell you that for any Spider-Man show, my ideal plot would have Spidey dump MJ or Gwen or whoever he's dating and nail Black Cat, he'd keep the Venom suit locked up as a Deadly Upgrade of last resort, and he'd hang out with Captain America a bunch. There would have to be a few episodes where The Punisher shows up to chase down some runaway villains, causing Spidey to question his Thou Shalt Not Kill methods, leading to some sort of climactic season finale.

For me, I'd like that Hobgoblin plot to be capitalized on, see how the Green Goblin continues his Big Bad status. Maybe delve into more of Black Cat.

One potential plotline - considering the way Sandman was going, the door was open for him and Spidey to team up and maybe form the Outlaws, if only for an episode or three.

By the end of the first season, Spectacular was already far superior to the 90's series. Hell, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends was a lot better than the 90's series.

Let's see, besides what was already mentioned, I know Silver Sable was supposed to pull a Heel–Face Turn/become more like her comic counterpart.

I kind of think that Harry would become the Hobgoblin and Norman would battle him in his Green Goblin outfit (not liking a rival, and not knowing it was Harry). I think Norman would (almost?) kill Harry and then as in the Ultimate series, would lose his shit- maybe not though, this Norman seems to be thoroughly pleased with himself.

I... I was joking. That's why I potholed it to Nostalgia Filter.

And looking at more clips, I think this JJJ is pretty funny, so an episode revolving around him going mad trying to get "revenge" on Spidey would have been cool too.

It would fit right in line with the creation of Scorpion.

The JJJ in Spectacular was more overtly a "abrasive but deep down nice" guy than most adaptations, so the origin of Scorpion would've been pretty interesting - particularly the remorse he would've felt about it.

Looking back, the incident with his son (Colnel Jupiter going nuts) might have been the thing to push him to that point.

And Scorpion going bad could have potentially been the moment to push him back the other way in a moment of My God, What Have I Done?.

edited 24th May '12 11:09:11 PM by SpaceJawa

I wanted to see them do the Spider-Slayers.