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Deadlock Clock: Jul 8th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: May 15th 2012 at 12:29:34 PM

Er, what exactly is going on in that creature? A black worm is fighting another black worm, and the small guy is winning? I don't see how that demonstrates this trope.

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
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#2: May 15th 2012 at 1:09:31 PM

It's supposed to be an Onix getting it's gravely backside handed to it by a Charmander, but I only know that because I read the comic...and recongize the Pokemon. I say Keep Until Better Suggested.

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#3: May 15th 2012 at 1:14:39 PM

[up] Okay, so is this actually an example? Is an Onix massive and terrifying? Does it have some weaksauce handicap that prevents it from being a threat ever? Do you encounter them in hordes later in the game?

Because frankly, this looks like an example of level grinding (boosting the charmander), which is a completely different trope.

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
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#4: May 15th 2012 at 1:23:17 PM

Yes, Onix is a rock type and counters Charmander's fire type element. How ever in the updated re-release of the game, Charmander gains a move that counters Onix's rock type element and also it to beat Onix. So from a mechanics stand point it makes sense, but after all this I realizes that's a lot of knowledge to need just to understand it

The picture is probably used because the first Onix in the game in encountered during a gym battle, basically the boss fights of the game.

Okay, you swayed me Sparks, this needs to go.

edited 15th May '12 1:25:18 PM by Frosplosion

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#5: May 15th 2012 at 1:30:02 PM

Yeah, that's just not gonna cut it.

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#6: May 15th 2012 at 8:57:43 PM

More specifically, Onix is a Rock/Ground Pokemon, both of which are super-effective against Fire (and on top of that, Rock resists Fire attacks). According to the games' Pokedexes Onix is one of the largest Pokemon in the entire series (at 20+ feet) and should absolutely tower over a Charmander by comparison. But in actual gameplay, Onix's sole strength is a high physical defense - weak attack power, relatively poor defense against special-based hits (especially water/grass which both inflict quadruple damage), which means that they aren't really the threat that their massive size/weight logically should make them.

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#7: May 16th 2012 at 3:04:58 PM

They do have a deceptively high speed; at base 70, he's actually one of the faster unevolved pokemon.

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Frosplosion Fro-ed Wonder from Palm Bay, FL Since: Nov, 2011
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#8: May 21st 2012 at 8:16:23 AM

That's still a lot of supplemental information needed to understand why the image works.

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#10: Jul 6th 2012 at 5:33:54 AM

Motion to pull.

Per the above, you need a lot of in-universe information to understand why it's an example, and even then it's somewhat iffy. Does not illustrate well enough.

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#11: Jul 6th 2012 at 5:55:02 AM

Supporting pull: The image is not illustrative on its own.

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#12: Jul 6th 2012 at 6:41:01 AM

+1 to per per the above reasons.

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#13: Jul 6th 2012 at 7:04:03 AM

It'd probably do better if it had the preceding panel from the comic it's from. If there was a way to keep it.

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#14: Jul 9th 2012 at 7:04:56 AM

Pulled, and since the clock's up, let's lock up and move on.

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