The Unofficial PewDiePie Thread

I agree with Odd1, that's why I dislike it when genuine critiscism might be dismissed as "haters".

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Honestly, I have never watched a full video of his, but just based on everything I hear about him (not just from RP's stuff on him, but also from fans of the guy), his style seems like something that would profoundly annoy me, something I kinda grew out of many years ago. How about you?

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Pretty much the same as yours!

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Hahaha, that's awesome

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SIDE NOTE: As soon as I saw this thread pop back onto the charts here, I had a feeling it'd be taken over by people from the RP thread.

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Alright, here are a few reasons why I'm not bothering responding to the Slowbeef article, then I'm going to bed:

He seems to be under certain delusions, including but not limited to (A) Pewdie still makes "offensive" jokes, (B) Pewdie is exactly the same in real life as the exaggerated character he portrays in his videos, (C) that his charity work was more a gesture towards haters than genuine goodwill, (D) that the haters deserved an apology while they'd offered nothing but hostility even before Pewdie's snarky comment and (E) that "don't like it, don't watch it" is bad advice ... for no real reason other than "other people watch stuff they dislike! I'm allowed to too!"

And please, if the man "practically invented LPs" it really isn't that big an achievement. It's talking while playing video games, for goodness' sake. I don't even see how you can invent that. I mean, I like LPs but I'm not going to pretend they're a rich form of entertainment. I don't see why that's a reason to respect him, think his word is somehow gospel (or at least has value simply because of the guy writing it) or see him as anything other than a typical example of Small Name, Big Ego (if it is as Filby says and Slowbeef is criticising PDP because he's annoyed that a form of entertainment he "invented" is entertaining people in a way he dislikes. He might just dislike Pewdiepie, which I think is more likely).

I'd have to really disagree there. LPs are a good way to experience or learn about a game by seeing the actual game itself and being informed about it by a (hopefully) knowledgeable player. It's a great thing if you don't own a game and maybe weren't exactly thinking about getting it before, if you don't own the console the game is for, if the game is hard to find, etc.

LPs like those PDP makes...I can't really enjoy the game itself with the kind of commentary he does. And if you can't enjoy the game, then what's the point of the LP itself?

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I can't help but feel that I'm kicking the hornet's nest here, but:

Assuming that you mean his youtube uploads — please feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken — then it's not really for free. Regardless of how anyone feels about the matter he has a Youtube partnership, which means that he does get paid for his uploads as long as they are popular. I believe he has gone on the record as admitting that his videos are his primary source of income.

Now, how much he makes is unknown, and probably never will be known due to things like ND As. I'm extremely hesitant to quote figures because I can't really find any solid ones, and some of the ones I have stumbled across seem ridiculous and may be based off false information (like claiming he's a Machinima partner when I can find no confirmation that he actually is). Regardless though, he's not really doing it for free if it's what he basically makes his livelihood off of. I feel neither here nor there about it, but felt that it should be pointed out that this isn't just a case of someone being a bedroom blogger or a youtuber with like, ten subscribers.

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The bottom line is that if you put your work out there, you're open to criticism. Everyone has the right to criticize what you've done, just like you have the right to argue against the criticism, learn from it, or simply ignore it.

If you like PDP, that's fine! Enjoy his work, and don't let the critics change your opinion if you don't want them to. But the critics are within their rights, and you can't just dismiss them as "haters".

So with that said, maybe those of us who don't like PDP should leave this thread to those who do. I know I didn't like it when people from Busy Street or Dead Horse Interchange would barge into the TGWTG thread to tear down something I like. So maybe we should keep our bitching about PDP to the Retsupurae thread, since we all seem to be citing Slowbeef anyway.

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Personally, I think L Pers should be unable to get You Tube partnerships, since that would basically mean they're making money off of someone else's intellectual property, and unlike video reviewers, they're usually showing the entire thing, which isn't protected by fair use.

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I would argue that not playing the game is not getting the full experience; they're called games for a reason.

edited 28th Jan '13 5:56:55 AM by Scardoll

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Yeah, he makes money from Google (who own Youtube), not from his viewers. They're free for us. Hence the pettiness of the critics.

I don't think Youtube partners make a lot of money anyway. I used to watch Shane Dawson's channels and he once said, "it's not much but it's enough to pay the rent".

When I see a criticism that I think is valid, I won't dismiss the critic as a "hater". But saying "he only cares about money" when there's a ton of evidence to the contrary and "he just does offensive humour" when he hasn't for months and months and months is, pretty clearly, the behaviour of a hater.

If you want to criticise him for sensible things, be my guest. Personally, I'd say he relies too much on referencing internet memes. But anyone like Slowbeef, who complains about an apology that they didn't deserve in the first place (which, in itself, is a perfect demonstration of why he didn't deserve an apology), doesn't even deserve to have his "critique" acknowledged.

I thought the same thing actually. I have two videos on Youtube from games and they've both received over 100,000 views, which means I'm allowed to make money from them. You receive a message from Youtube when it happens, asking if you might be interested. But on the monetization page, it says the following:

"Your video is not eligible if it contains content that you didn't create or get permission from its creator to use. You need to be able to show written permission for the following video elements:

Audio: recorded music, live performances, cover songs, background music, etc. Visuals: images, logos, software, video game footage, etc."

So I didn't go for it. Honestly though, more power to the people who can get away with it.

edited 28th Jan '13 6:34:35 AM by Guest1001

Very true, but I don't always have much time to play video games, and sometimes I can't get my hand on certain games, so I'd say a good LP is an adequate substitute. It also gives a nice chance to "preview" the game to help decide whether or not to play it, too. I know there are games that I've bought after watching LPs of them.

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Err... I'm pretty sure slowbeef doesn't dislike PDP just because he's "slandering the thing he invented." I don't think he cares too much about the whole inventing Let's Plays thing. And frankly, I think slowbeef's post on the subject was full of valid reasons. I'm pretty sure the whole Adults react to PDP thing wasn't meant to be taken too seriously.

edited 29th Jan '13 12:08:27 AM by Marioguy128

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he had ads on the video where he apologizes. Doesn't that make you even a little suspicious as to PDP's intentions?

Y'know, playing devil's advocate here (I don't particularly like PDP's videos), but he might've gotten into a habit of enabling ads on all his videos, and did it here without really thinking about what he was doing.

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Of course not. What difference does it make? Him making money from that video doesn't mean "he only cares about money", which is supposed to be your argument (and there's a ton of evidence against). It sounds to me like you're just pissed off because he makes money, full-stop. Unless that's what's annoying you, there's no reason to be irritated that he put ads on the apology video. Who cares if he did?

Oh, right, I forgot ... pettiness ...

edited 29th Jan '13 2:49:31 PM by Guest1001

How's about you stop making assumptions about other people's motivations, eh?

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... As opposed to everyone else making assumptions about other people's motivations? Or am I singled out simply for not jumping on the "Pewdiepie is obviously a dick" bandwagon?

Edit: Ah, I see. Making assumptions about Nettacki's motivations. Well it's not like it makes a difference which assumption I made was correct. There's no logical reason for either standpoint.

edited 29th Jan '13 2:56:44 PM by Guest1001

So, I'm watching his Scribblenauts Unlimited playlist. A few things can be learned :

1) The guys making Scribblenauts apparently don't like him, since typing "Pewdiepie" causes the appearance of a big mouthed idiot with headphones who screams like a baby.

2) He doesn't give a crap, because he laughed his ass off when he saw that.

3) He either likes to play with fire or has a weird sense of humor, because when the game asked him a guy who knows how to make money, he summoned himself.

4) The answer to everything is "dildo". Although he eventually grew out of that. ("Make a weapon ? Dild... *erases* Sorry about that.")

5) Goddammit, I still have to wait 15 days for this game to be out around here.

Um, guys? Hate to break it you, but saying Slowbeef is attacking PDP to "defend something he created" is one of the stupidest things I've heard all week.

Yes, Slowbeef created the LP genre, and yes, that gives him a little more insight as to how it works. However, that doesn't mean he's entitled to judge L Pers on some "standard" or some crap like that.

Slowbeef isn't hating on PDP out of some need to dignify L Ps. Slowbeef is hating on PDP because to him PDP is a bad L Per. Nothing more.

edited 31st Jan '13 7:54:54 AM by Watchtower

A bad let's player that's reacting rather poorly to criticism.

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That makes sense.

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His latest Fridays With Pewdiepie is a Crowning Moment Of Heartwarming and maybe even a Tear Jerker. I wish I could hug him, honestly.

edited 31st Jan '13 4:48:09 PM by Guest1001