The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Okay. I'm a little confused about its status since the page here says that it has two devilheads but I don't see them on the Content Violations Report page, unless they just haven't been added yet. But if it does get cut, I'll de-link the crosswicks and take it off of my Troper page on the list of pages I created.

That's because there are no devilheads. Septimus's post is wrong. Good catch, BTW.

Done.

edited 27th Aug '14 10:01:47 AM by tdgoodrich1

Characters.Yu Gi Oh The Thousand Year Door needs to be zapped off the list. It's not an issue for this forum.

With Fluffy Pony, I guess we could just go 'fuck it', torch everything vaguely skeevy, put up a notice saying 'there are clean Fluffy works, please don't talk about the torture-porn here because it's revolting', and let Wiki Magic slowly grow back the resulting stub into something resembling a functional page.

That might be a good idea.

Also, I have flagged the Ryona page because... the fuck?

That page has already been cleaned once.

edited 27th Aug '14 7:57:51 PM by Willbyr

Over three years ago, before the P5. This needs to be revisited.

It was also cleaned during the whole perversity cleanup. As much as the idea of Ryona doesn't make me a happy boy, there isn't much case for further action.

@ 11279 : That sounds like a plan to me. I would be willing to do a clean-up of that nature.

It looks more like a pull to me, on top of being so obscure I hasn't even heard of it, it's just a useless stub.

edited 29th Aug '14 2:55:34 PM by shoboni

I am on the fence over wether to flag Frank's Adventure or let it be. On the one hand, it's not exactly porn and, as far as I know from my personal experience with the games, there is no loli-pandering in it. But on the other hand, gratuitous, uncensored full frontal nudity strikes me as something that maybe does not fit in here.

To be honest, even your description says "not actionable" to me - having lots of gratuitous breast shots in and of itself doesn't make for a very good removal case.

On the other hand, to me it sounds like the nudes are the main point and the minigames are just a little obstacle. There is no plot to speak of. It's just another out of the hundreds "play minigame to see porn" games on newgrounds.

Also half the pictures are confirmed traced or in one case simply completely stolen from porn games/sites. Given the rest of the game's quality, I believe that all of them are, only a portion did not find it's way to webcrawler caches.

edited 30th Aug '14 1:49:35 AM by Adannor

Frank's Adventure does have a lot of nudity, but no sex. There's nothing in those pictures you wouldn't see in an R-rated movie.

Also I'm pretty sure Mausland intended these games as a parody of all the ridiculous sex games on Newgrounds. The first game might not seem it, but in later games it was obvious the main focus was on comedy rather then nudes.

Claiming "parody" does not stop it from being a plotless erogame.

edited 30th Aug '14 7:51:33 AM by Adannor

It's not a "plotless erogame". I'd compare it more to South Park or the more risque missions of Grand Theft Auto then anything. The third game has aliens who interrupt the protagonist's vacation because they need nude pictures to compare to the ugly girls they have on their planet.

The whole thing is just ridiculously absurd to be called an "erogame". If you're playing this in hope of sex you'll be disappointed, and the nudity becomes a challenge to get to by the third game. The first game might've been So Bad, It's Good (particularly with the depictions of Spike and Wario as cocaine dealers) but later on the series does become hilarious and pretty challenging.

edited 30th Aug '14 7:58:52 AM by Assassin-sensei

Okay, your points convinced me. I will think no more of it.

Sorry to doublepost, but, just in case nobody noticed, someone started a stub on Demonophobia, which is one of those things that are monstrously sick and were agreed we never, ever wanted back in the site.

Someone sent a content violation report about it, but I think that, considering that this was already discussed and dealt with forever, we should just send it to the cutlist. Could I do so?

There was no official vote on it, so I am thinking "no".

Well, there was no official vote on it because main/Demonophobia was eliminated as part of the purge following The Second Google Incident. I have also seen some posts in the Page Restoration forum in which people asked about Demonophobia, and were told that the thing would never be coming back, because it is ero-guro with loli-pandering content, so I figured that the issue regarding this had already been dealt with completely.

EDIT: If the P5 would like to take this opportunity to review it and give some official finality to this case, I will not oppose it, however.

SECOND EDIT: And now I noticed that it is still being voted. This should teach me to be more perceptive.

edited 2nd Sep '14 10:42:46 AM by Sachiko

Hey, if I can get a go ahead I would like to clean up Fluffy Pony as was suggested, adding that the page is ONLY for WS versions to the summary and cutting all the tropes tied to the torture stories straight-up. Please let me know if I can do this or not.

Do it in a sandbox, perhaps?

Sounds like a plan to me.

Okay, time to get everything back up to speed:

• I've given angelheads to Travels of the Trifecta! and The Manga Guide To Psychosomatic Illnesses.
  • Trifecta: That scene in question is not pedopandering, as the exact details of what Mars did to Conway to procure the book is so vague that anything could've happened, as well as that it's not being done for the sake of titillation at all (Mars is clearly being a total creeper here and the story isn't trying to condone it.).
  • Illnesses: The sole chapter in contention here, as Kuro Bara Hime showed, is perfectly fine. If I may make a suggestion, expand the focus of the work beyond that one chapter. As is, the page is far too focused on it and is severely misinterpreting the work in question in the process.
• I've given devilheads to The Lord Of The G Strings, Little Miss Mary, Demonophobia, Its Always Time and Observe The Viewing Globe.
  • G-Strings: The uncensored versions are pornographic and marketed as such and, since we cut works with differing versions like this in the past, I might as well be consistent and give this the boot, too.
  • Little Miss Mary: Pedopandering is abound with this one, plain and simple. Harry is 14 in this, and he's paired with Snape.
  • Demonophobia: Nothing's changed since its initial 2012 removal. It's still nothing more than a gore-fetishizing torture porn game.
  • It's Always Time: Going by what I've read of it here, this is basically (food fetish) porn.
  • Globe: Look here. It's nothing but (childhood-ruining) porn.
• I'm still deciding on what to do with Endless World and Ryona. The latter, I really want to cut, but with the page as is, I'm still uncertain.
• I zapped Time Braid because I'm not convinced by the argument presented for it.

Okay, that should be everything on the queue so far.

edited 6th Sep '14 4:39:40 PM by Komodin

@Komodin: What works are you thinking of, regarding G-Strings?

(Essentially, I'm hoping you're not using Caligula as the precedent.)