Not Tropeworthy: Sugar Wiki.Rule Of Sean Connery

I'm sorry but what is the point of this page?

It uses completely pointless reasoning - talking about Multipliers of Sean Connery and Awesomeness Multiplier of Keanu Reeves and uses nonsensical sums that mean nothing. As far as I can gather from reading this page; it basically points out that the presence of your favourite actor makes a film more enjoyable - Do we really need a whole page to point out the absolute obvious?

In addition there is ABSOLUTELY no description save for one random quote from a video games reviewer and the examples themselves don't make any coherent sense because they don't explain themselves; how is The Rock as cool as James Bond? how is Micheal Caine as cool as Bill Murray? how is Ron Perlman as cool as Nathan Fillion? these actors (and fictional characters!) are so varied and contrasting that I fail to see how they can be categorized together in any sort of meaningful way.

I propose that a Mod cuts this completely as it has zero relevance or coherency to anything.

edited 8th Apr '12 3:50:31 PM by thatsnumberwang

It's a Just for Fun page. Not an actual trope. Unless it's causing problems, we're generally okay with those.

Might need moving to Sugar Wiki though, since it's Gush About Actors You Like.

This is "gushing about Sean Connery while dissing on Keanu Reeves and Nicholas Cage". I'd say cut it.

Fair enough - I can appreciate a Just For Fun kind of thing. Recategorized as Sugar Wiki would be a brilliant idea as it isn't really a Trope per say. Nevertheless, if it is kept, a serious rework is in order as it is basically nonsense in its current form.

edited 8th Apr '12 4:04:52 PM by thatsnumberwang

Wait, Spark makes a fair point. Does it involve bashing? If it does, then we can consider cutting it.

Yes. Yes it does. The first two-thirds of the page are an arbitrary list of actors that some troper finds awesome. The last third of the page is a list of actors that some troper thinks suck. It is cleverly disguised as "ymmv", but full of quotes like "Nobody ever walks out of a film regretting that this guy wasn't in it" and "he is generally outacted by the floor he's standing on."

It's not listed as Just for Fun. And the examples must all unarguably be cut.

I don't know if any of it could officially be categorized as bashing but it is certainly a very subjective Trope.

It's certainly subjective, but it also certainly isn't a trope.

It's on the Just for Fun index.

If it involves bashing though, count me in the cutlisting group.

I agree with you Spark - it fits no definition of Trope that I am familiar with. That alone should get it deleted or reworked.

edited 8th Apr '12 4:13:10 PM by thatsnumberwang

Uh, it won't be cut, unfortunately.

And why is that? 491 inbounds isn't that much. There is no such rule that pages with a couple hundred inbounds can't be cut, especially if they're bashing pages.

Yes, we avoid cutting pages with too many inbounds, but then we're talking about tens of thousands of inbounds. THIS is a page that won't be cut because of its inbounds.

Inbounds prove that links to the page exist, not that the page is good. Leave the name as a redirect to Sean Connery if we want to retain those links.

No Spark, you're mistaken. Cut Masters won't cut 500 inbounds unless the page is freaky. We tried to do that on Fanfic Chop Suey and Eddie veto'ed it. We tried to cutlist The Three Faces of Adam and it was veto'ed again. The minimum number of inbounds we do not cutlist something on is 10. Which is pretty far from a whooping 500.

Redirect is fine.

edited 8th Apr '12 4:25:17 PM by lu127

What's a suitable trope we could redirect this to? Something that is conceptually related. Sean Connery himself is one such page but there may be better.

No, you're incorrect. Both Fanfic Chop Suey and The Three Faces of Adam clearly have less than 500 inbounds. Eddie vetoed cutting that Adam page because he thought it was a viable trope, not because it met some arbitrary threshold of inbounds.

edited 8th Apr '12 4:30:13 PM by Spark9

Spark, please get your facts straight. Fanfic Chop Suey was a case of veto.

The wiki relies on inbounds.

@Arha The problem though is that, despite its name, its limited description seems to imply it can refer equally Keanu Reeves and Nick Cage. I think I should have added Confusing Title to my opening paragraph.

Wow, no need to be so condescending.

edited 8th Apr '12 4:38:23 PM by Spark9

Well, we could redirect Rule Of Sean Connery to Keanu Reeves, but...

Point is, despite the name, 98% of the page content is not about Sean Connery anyway.

Why not just label this Just for Fun put it in the Just for Fun namespace and that's it?

We could redirect it to Gush/People.

^ I like that plan. And perhaps expand the definition for that a little while we're at it. It's a very boring looking page and if we want to save the inbounds it ought to be an interesting page.

edited 8th Apr '12 4:44:24 PM by Arha

There.