Rename (New Crowner 7/06/13): Eva Fins

Rename crowner hooked.

Calling crowner in favor of renaming.

SWAP

Bump for votes.

You know, whether or not Mech Shoulder Fins wins, I think Mecha Shoulder Fins sounds better.

Let's see some votes here.

Winning option is just barely over the threshold. Would prefer to see a better ratio or a new suggestion.

Hadn't it be agreed it is not about shoulder fins but tall fins in general? Isn't the leading name terribly misleading then?

It's a missing supertrope problem. As Raso made clear, this comes in all sorts of forms.

I suggest we define this trope as extensions going from the shoulders themselves that move with the arms, that go at least as far as the head and rise vertically when it is standing straight. This is because the current description and most of the examples fit there. But some (like the Real Life example) do not, which is another problem.

We need a trope for similar structures attached to the body (that are not antiaxial with arms) and a broader trope for silhouette-defining extensions in general.

Bump, need to fix this.

Splitting based on where it's attached to the body seems unnecessary unless there is a real, definable difference in how the trope is used between the shoulder fin and the back fin.

Wow, this is dead. I want to see a better ratio, alternate ideas, or I may have to say no consensus.

The definition is strictly about shoulder fins, and so are the examples. Thus Mecha Fins will just lead to misuse. Additionally, we can run a runoff crowner.

edited 28th Dec '12 1:50:55 AM by SeptimusHeap

But as ccoa said, how is there a meaningful difference between shoulder fins and, say, back fins. Keeping a silly distinction is not what TRS is all about. I fully support broadening this to be about Mecha Fins.

(I think part of the problem here may be that we jumped straight to the name crowner before deciding for sure on the definition.)

edited 29th Dec '12 7:57:31 PM by Xtifr

Yeah, I have to agree. This trope is a classic too-narrow trope.

That said, the examples are all about shoulder fins, apparently.

Added Mecha Fins to the crowner since for whatever reason it wasn't there before.

Where else are you going to have fins other than the shoulders? Mecha Shoulder Fins is much more awkward than Mecha Fins.

How did this come up for renaming based on poor wicks anyway? It is a trope about giant shoulder fins on giant robots. It's a very specific visual trope, and the chances of someone editing the page knowing a great deal of examples and not knowing about Evangelion are slim to none.

The problem is that this is a visual trope (it's about the silhouette formed) which has any number of variants.

I think it might be better to define this by the form created and extend it to cover armour and possibly humanoid monsters.

...and the crowner is dead. Now what do we do?

I think it's possible to read crowners somehow, although I'm not sure how to find the link. Google site search doesn't work, at any rate.

Anyway, I think we now rename this to Mecha Fins or Mecha Shoulder Fins or whatever the winning name on the crowner was.

Found it.

Mecha Shoulder Fins has a better margin, but Mecha Fins has a better ratio.

Mecha Shoulder Fins' ratio is 1.44 : 1 while Mecha Fins' ratio is 1.86 : 1, in case anyone's curious. The results being opposite each other doesn't help either's case...maybe a runoff?

I think a run-off would be helpful. Mecha Fins was added to the crowner much later than the other options.

How about we take the concise name and use the other as a redirect, and everybody's happy?

Clear, concise, witty. Neither name is witty. The shorter name is more concise. The shorter name is also clearer, since as discussed earlier in this thread the fins don't have to be on the shoulders either.

Mecha Fins