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Rename (New Crowner 7/06/13): Eva Fins get usage counts

 26 lu 127, Wed, 16th May '12 12:44:27 PM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Rename crowner hooked.
茨の森の眠り姫
千年夢を見る眠り姫
 27 ccoa, Thu, 31st May '12 9:26:18 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Calling crowner in favor of renaming.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 28 lu 127, Sat, 2nd Jun '12 12:33:30 PM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
SWAP
茨の森の眠り姫
千年夢を見る眠り姫
 29 Spark 9, Wed, 4th Jul '12 4:08:04 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
Bump for votes.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
You know, whether or not Mech Shoulder Fins wins, I think Mecha Shoulder Fins sounds better.
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
 31 lu 127, Mon, 9th Jul '12 1:40:15 PM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Let's see some votes here.
茨の森の眠り姫
千年夢を見る眠り姫
 32 ccoa, Thu, 23rd Aug '12 6:01:27 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Winning option is just barely over the threshold. Would prefer to see a better ratio or a new suggestion.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Hadn't it be agreed it is not about shoulder fins but tall fins in general? Isn't the leading name terribly misleading then?

 34 RJ Savoy, Thu, 23rd Aug '12 3:58:10 PM from Edinburgh Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmă
It's a missing supertrope problem. As Raso made clear, this comes in all sorts of forms.

I suggest we define this trope as extensions going from the shoulders themselves that move with the arms, that go at least as far as the head and rise vertically when it is standing straight. This is because the current description and most of the examples fit there. But some (like the Real Life example) do not, which is another problem.

We need a trope for similar structures attached to the body (that are not antiaxial with arms) and a broader trope for silhouette-defining extensions in general.
 35 Ookamikun, Fri, 31st Aug '12 12:05:13 PM from the lupine den
Wolves, wolves, wolves!
Bump, need to fix this.
Lone wolf? Hah! "Lone" wolves die out of hunger and loneliness. The wolf needs the pack, and the pack needs the wolf.
 36 ccoa, Fri, 31st Aug '12 12:06:47 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Splitting based on where it's attached to the body seems unnecessary unless there is a real, definable difference in how the trope is used between the shoulder fin and the back fin.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 37 lu 127, Fri, 28th Dec '12 1:41:05 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Wow, this is dead. I want to see a better ratio, alternate ideas, or I may have to say no consensus.
茨の森の眠り姫
千年夢を見る眠り姫
 38 Septimus Heap, Fri, 28th Dec '12 1:50:15 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The definition is strictly about shoulder fins, and so are the examples. Thus Mecha Fins will just lead to misuse. Additionally, we can run a runoff crowner.

edited 28th Dec '12 1:50:55 AM by SeptimusHeap

World's Toughest Milkman
But as ccoa said, how is there a meaningful difference between shoulder fins and, say, back fins. Keeping a silly distinction is not what TRS is all about. I fully support broadening this to be about Mecha Fins.

(I think part of the problem here may be that we jumped straight to the name crowner before deciding for sure on the definition.)

edited 29th Dec '12 7:57:31 PM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 40 Septimus Heap, Sun, 30th Dec '12 1:04:04 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Yeah, I have to agree. This trope is a classic too-narrow trope.

That said, the examples are all about shoulder fins, apparently.

 41 Noaqiyeum, Sun, 30th Dec '12 11:13:39 AM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
nobody knows
Added Mecha Fins to the crowner since for whatever reason it wasn't there before.
"I'm an odd person that likes to write odd people." - JHM

Where else are you going to have fins other than the shoulders? Mecha Shoulder Fins is much more awkward than Mecha Fins.

How did this come up for renaming based on poor wicks anyway? It is a trope about giant shoulder fins on giant robots. It's a very specific visual trope, and the chances of someone editing the page knowing a great deal of examples and not knowing about Evangelion are slim to none.
I laugh in the face of suffering.
 43 RJ Savoy, Wed, 6th Feb '13 10:47:33 AM from Edinburgh Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmă
The problem is that this is a visual trope (it's about the silhouette formed) which has any number of variants.

I think it might be better to define this by the form created and extend it to cover armour and possibly humanoid monsters.
 44 Noaqiyeum, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 9:21:58 PM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
nobody knows
...and the crowner is dead. Now what do we do?
"I'm an odd person that likes to write odd people." - JHM
 45 Spark 9, Wed, 24th Apr '13 10:42:25 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
I think it's possible to read crowners somehow, although I'm not sure how to find the link. Google site search doesn't work, at any rate.

Anyway, I think we now rename this to Mecha Fins or Mecha Shoulder Fins or whatever the winning name on the crowner was.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 46 Noaqiyeum, Wed, 24th Apr '13 11:15:38 AM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
nobody knows
Found it.

Mecha Shoulder Fins has a better margin, but Mecha Fins has a better ratio.
"I'm an odd person that likes to write odd people." - JHM
 47 Willbyr, Wed, 24th Apr '13 12:44:13 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
Mecha Shoulder Fins' ratio is 1.44 : 1 while Mecha Fins' ratio is 1.86 : 1, in case anyone's curious. The results being opposite each other doesn't help either's case...maybe a runoff?
 48 Noaqiyeum, Wed, 24th Apr '13 12:58:36 PM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
nobody knows
I think a run-off would be helpful. Mecha Fins was added to the crowner much later than the other options.
"I'm an odd person that likes to write odd people." - JHM
 49 Spark 9, Wed, 24th Apr '13 2:53:26 PM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
How about we take the concise name and use the other as a redirect, and everybody's happy?

Clear, concise, witty. Neither name is witty. The shorter name is more concise. The shorter name is also clearer, since as discussed earlier in this thread the fins don't have to be on the shoulders either.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Piffy
[tup]Mecha Fins
Because underscores break everything: Working link to my Troper page

Alternative Titles: Eva Fins 2
6th Jul '13 11:36:26 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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