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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#1: Mar 23rd 2012 at 11:35:38 AM

There is a pre-existing term for this: Auto Scrolling. It's even used more often in the article itself.

Propose rename to Auto-Scrolling Level, to be consistent with pre-existing use.

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videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#2: Mar 23rd 2012 at 11:38:54 AM

Adding Auto Scrolling and Auto-Scrolling Level as redirects would be much easier.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4: Mar 23rd 2012 at 11:46:51 AM

It has enough wicks but pitiful inbounds. Support adding redirects.

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#5: Mar 23rd 2012 at 12:02:08 PM

Redirects Are Free

As for renaming: "Auto scrolling level" gets 10 times as many google hits as "Fixed scrolling level" so I'm finding it hard to argue with changing the name.

edited 23rd Mar '12 12:09:02 PM by abk0100

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Mar 23rd 2012 at 12:04:05 PM

88 hits without TV Tropes. Now I'll vote for rename.

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#7: Mar 23rd 2012 at 12:08:42 PM

I didn't even notice that all those hits were tvtropes.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Mar 23rd 2012 at 12:14:14 PM

Redirects or renaming? I'm always unclear what is the preferred choice when.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#9: Mar 23rd 2012 at 1:54:18 PM

I would say rename, since it's an existing name outside TV Tropes. I believe those should take preference over our own naming ideas. Internal consistency is a great thing to strive for, but external consistency is what makes newcomers less lost. And more prone to visiting in the first place.

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#10: Mar 23rd 2012 at 6:58:57 PM

I support a rename.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#11: Mar 23rd 2012 at 11:02:33 PM

"Autoscrolling" is for the win. It rolls off the tongue better, and it means precisely what the trope is: The level scrolls automatically.

"Fixed Scrolling" could be interpreted in a few other ways (such as scrolling only in a fixed direction), but let me get back to you in the usage department.

edited 23rd Mar '12 11:03:52 PM by Stratadrake

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#12: Mar 24th 2012 at 2:09:42 PM

I'm used to "fixed scrolling" to be cases like the original Super Mario Bros, where you could only scroll to the right - what direction things can scroll is fixed by a built-in limitation.

"Auto-scrolling" is what this trope is actually covering - cases where the game automatically scrolls in a direction regardless of what your character does (the game may or may not kill the player character if they hit the scroll wall - platofrmers are more likely to, while shoot 'em ups are less likely to).

I think a Trope Transplant is called for here, because the discussed trope is using the former's name for the latter concept. Moreover, I don't think we have the former concept troped at all (admittedly, it is fairly uncommon these days, as it was always fairly unpopular even back in the day).

EDIT: And I can think of several cases where they aren't exclusive - there are some games that auto-scroll in one direction but allow you to choose to scroll freely in the perpendicular axis (such as allowing you to choose to scroll up or down while moving things to the right). And, obviously, we have games like Super Mario Bros. where you never deal with auto-scrolling.

edited 24th Mar '12 2:12:07 PM by 32_Footsteps

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#13: Mar 24th 2012 at 3:35:33 PM

^ Ratchet Scrolling covers the cases of one-way scrolling.

I did scan some of the wikilinks but I have a question: This is frequently combined with an Advancing Wall of Doom. In such cases, which one should be cited? Both?

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edited 24th Mar '12 3:56:16 PM by Stratadrake

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#14: Mar 27th 2012 at 6:00:01 PM

Crowner slapped on thread.

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#15: Mar 28th 2012 at 5:24:36 AM

Huh... while I see the logic of the name Ratchet Scrolling, that's not the usual term outside the wiki.

As for Advancing Wall of Doom, cite for both, because it's quite possible to have either one without the other - both Final Fantasy IV and I Wanna Be The Guy have the walls completely distinct from auto-scrolling, and shoot 'em ups frequently auto-scroll without the wall.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Apr 8th 2012 at 2:12:46 PM

Calling crowner in favor of a rename.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#17: Apr 8th 2012 at 6:57:33 PM

Is the rest a speedy rename then?

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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#18: Apr 11th 2012 at 11:22:19 AM

Yeah. New name should be Auto-Scrolling Level. Put in the current name and Autoscrolling Level as redirects.

So, how does one rename a page, anyways?

edited 11th Apr '12 11:23:33 AM by petrie911

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#19: Apr 11th 2012 at 11:22:52 AM

[up]How To Move A Page is the guide page.

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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#20: Apr 11th 2012 at 12:01:06 PM

Rename in process. New page is Auto-Scrolling Level. Now the wicks just need to be fixed.

EDIT: Wick fixing complete. All that remains is to remove the Laconic entry for Fixed Scrolling Level and move its archived discussion to the new page.

edited 11th Apr '12 1:14:28 PM by petrie911

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MetaFour Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Apr 11th 2012 at 1:41:54 PM

Moved.

Good job everyone.

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24th Mar '12 3:53:37 PM

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There is a pre-established term for this trope: Auto Scrolling. Should we rename?

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