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#576: Oct 6th 2014 at 7:14:36 AM

I liked the turtles' origins, but I didn't like that Hamato Yoshi was played by a random book Splinter found in the sewer.

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#577: Oct 7th 2014 at 5:14:29 PM

I think the book did the best it could do playing Yoshi within the constraints of the script. If the book had a bit more room for characterization I'm sure it would have done honor to the character.

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#578: Oct 14th 2014 at 6:15:21 PM

Did we link to this awesome concept art of Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang?

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#579: Dec 10th 2014 at 4:36:40 PM

So I finally watched it.

It knew what it was, and it didn't try to be anything more than that. I chuckled here and there, and I didn't hate it. I'd say I have less bad things to say about this than the first Transformers movie, and the first Transformers movie is the one I liked the most.

One thing I have to ask: Megan Fox called Michael Bay the Devil, so how did they end up working together again, even if Bay is the producer only?

I'm genuinely baffled on that one.

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#580: Dec 10th 2014 at 4:46:22 PM

Bay took the statement in stride, it was Steven Spielberg who took personal offense to that, as he's obviously Jewish, so didn't take kindly to Michael Bay, a personal friends of his, being called fucking Hitler.

As for Bay himself, legend claims he is impervious to criticism, otherwise he'd have comitted suicide some ten years ago.

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#581: Dec 10th 2014 at 5:23:25 PM

Think about it; which side in the Bay/Fox equation came back crawling to the other and eating crow? And why would the other side lose the chance to make that obvious?

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#582: Dec 10th 2014 at 6:39:59 PM

[up][up] Spielberg said Bay was bullshitting everyone when the latter claimed the former wanted Fox ousted.

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#583: Dec 10th 2014 at 8:41:20 PM

The interview was brought wildly out of context. The larger quote, paraphrased, is "He's really nice and kinda shy in person, but on set he is trying to be Hitler." Many people have said similar things, Shia LaBeouf called him a General. What got her fired was some bad behavior on set and just not taking her job seriously, with Bay saying (later recanting) that Spielberg was the one who made that decision. Bay himself actually laughed it off, and in his world having a bad work ethic is worse than whatever you say about him.

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#584: Dec 10th 2014 at 9:32:32 PM

.....

That's actually pretty cool.

I mean, say what you will about his movies, but he does put effort into them.

Well, things worked out it seems.

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#585: Mar 31st 2015 at 7:27:24 PM

Arrow's Stephen Amell has been cast as Casey Jones for the sequel.

edited 31st Mar '15 7:27:31 PM by tclittle

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#586: Apr 1st 2015 at 9:24:35 AM

Shredder, you have failed this city

EDIT:Provided this isn't an April Fool's joke.

edited 1st Apr '15 9:25:39 AM by VeryMelon

Sisi Since: Oct, 2012
#587: Apr 1st 2015 at 9:32:24 AM

It was announced last night so...

But I think this is great casting. I actually have some interest in seeing the movie now XD. Amell is solid as the Green Arrow so I think another vigilante hero should be a piece of cake for him XD

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#588: Apr 4th 2015 at 3:01:23 PM

I'm watching it now.

It is a piece of art. Perfection in cinemascope. The Turtles are adorable and look really good in action. The serious and silly are well-balanced.

But one fail stirks out like a sore thumb: Shredder's atrocious Japanese. He tries to sound like Toshiro Mifune, but he just sounds like an American speaking with poor grammar and accent in a laughably grave voice. Pure Narm, of the not-even-funny kind.

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#589: Apr 4th 2015 at 3:18:10 PM

So, Shredder VS Splinter.

Shredder.

Shrerrer pls.

Why won't you say "MUDA MUDA MUDA"?

Ah.

Well, You Can't Thwart Stage One, can you?

"Where's the yourth?" "He's dead." "Destroy this place. With DUBSTEP."

edited 4th Apr '15 3:24:24 PM by TheHandle

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#590: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:19:15 PM

As for Bay himself, legend claims he is impervious to criticism, otherwise he'd have comitted suicide some ten years ago.

The explosion would have, of course, been glorious.

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#591: Apr 6th 2015 at 6:10:57 AM

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I thought the film was excellent lighthearted popcorn fun. Doesn't really detract from the silliness I remember in the 90's cartoon. It's pure Rule of Fun.

Though I wish they had used the cartoon's theme in an updated form, like they did with Ghostbusters back in the day. Compare this to this.

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#592: Apr 6th 2015 at 4:08:57 PM

I feel the movie had a relatively solid first half hour despite a bland opening monologue, stumbles a bit when it comes to telling the origin story and never quite recovers from it but still has enough to really enjoy. The elevator beat boxing scene is complete brilliance.

The movie struggles with making the Shredder and Turtles rivalry logical. It's fine that they are actually a science experiment instead of just pets, but I had to wonder how Splinter knew all that stuff about Shredder and vice-versa when they were only connected to Sachs. Showing a tiny rat mimicking martial arts moves like in the original movie might have look silly (and it did then too) but it still worked in the sense that he watched and heard everything and after mutating gained intelligence to apply it. Learning everything solely from a discarded book left pretty much everyone scratching their heads.

In that regard I think a least some of the problem comes from the apparent reshoots that made Sachs into a secondary villain instead of actually being the Shredder.

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#593: Apr 7th 2015 at 12:30:26 AM

The elevator scene was just so perfect... [awesome][awesome][awesome]

The "taught himself ninja" reminds me a lot of Shadow Falcon from the Black Lagoon Light Novel. Spoilers ahead, but this is one of the most hilarious scenes I have ever read:

"So, Mister Falcon. Are you, you know, one of those? A... a ninja?"

Rock's cheeks reddened at the absurdity of the question, but Shadow Falcon only nodded once, slowly and severely.

"I do not wish to brag, but this one has holds a thirtieth dan in the Kouga Death Shadow style of ninjutsu."

"Dea, death... shadow, you say... Hah... hahah..."

There was only one thought filling Rock's head.

I want to go home...

"Well, I mean, you know, we're on the verge of the 21st century and all, so isn't it a bit late for ninjas? No, well, I'm Japanese, granted, but still..."

Rock floundered, searching for the proper words, but Shadow Falcon showed no sign of taking insult. Instead he rose silently, removing a small booklet from behind the wall scroll and walking back.

Gingerly taking the offered booklet, Rock saw that it was quite old, the pages yellow with age and limp from constant use and accumulated dampness. Some of the pages were even on the verge of falling out altogether. Even at a glance it was obvious that it was the result of some cheaply done mass offset printing job. On the tattered cover page was a silhouette of Sho Kosugi—probably printed without the slightest regard for copyright—and below it, written in English, Rock could just barely make out the words "KOUGA DEATH SHADOW☆NINJUTSU SHINAN SHO."

On the copyright page at the second to last page of the booklet, instead of an address, there were merely the letters O.M.C.

"...If you don't mind me asking, what's this O.M.C. thing?"

"The letters stand for Oriental Mystic Collection. An organization that has provided this one with many ninja items."

"...Let me guess, they sent you that scroll and the sword too?"

Shadow Falcon nodded. A horrible feeling began to weigh heavily on Rock's mind.

"Can I ask one more thing? Where did you learn about this O.M.C. thing?"

"I discovered them in the advertisement pages of Black Belt and Inside Kung Fu."

"..."

Rock didn't even know what to say to that.

To put it simply, this man was nothing more than the hapless victim of a half-brained mail ordering scam. Rock couldn't say how or why Falcon had ended up falling so far, but it was obvious that somehow he'd ended up becoming a killer and had drifted through the cesspool of the underworld until he came to Roanapur. It was almost heartbreaking, how a person's life could go so wrong.

Rock flipped through the pamphlet again, realizing from the font that it wasn't even a cheap print job—the pages had simply been printed straight from a word processor document. As for the contents, they were full of the sort of ridiculous training methods one might expect to find in a bad 80's ninja movie. Running at full speed with a straw hat placed against one's chest and making sure it didn't fall off. Blindfolding oneself and picking out the sound of a single needle falling on the ground amongst many. To make things worse, some bare minimum of effort had been expended to make it look like a training manual; stark font on each page numbered the bizarre training methods from "1ST DAN" to "30TH DAN."

...Suddenly, Rock remembered what Falcon had said just moments before.

"...Wait, did you say you held a thirtieth dan?"

"It is so."

Shadow Falcon nodded calmly.

"No, but wait, if you... Wait, you're telling me that you can do everything written in this booklet?"

"It is so."

Falcon agreed once more, showing not the slightest hint of arrogance. He was merely stating a fact.

"...This bit about planting hemp and jumping over it every day, too?"

Rock pointed to a page, and the blue eyes inside the mask clouded over with nostalgia.

"At first it seemed a trifling task, but the true test of my abilities began with the third month."

As far as Rock knew, hemp could grow more than three meters high in just a hundred days, and considering that the recently set world record for high jump was just under two and a half meters...

"...And this part about walking over wet washi(8) without tearing it?"

"Every step was a battle against myself. When I was yet untrained in the ways of the shadow, it took four days to traverse five meters."

In other words, that meant that he'd kept up a state of heightened concentration for four days straight, without stopping to eat or drink or even sleep.

Rock stared once more at Shadow Falcon's body. Even shrouded in formless black clothing, his thick pectorals, sturdy shoulders and neck, and tree-like biceps and thighs were readily apparent. And yet his waist was relatively thin for a man of his size, the tightly cinched belt making it clear that there was not one ounce of excess fat on his body.

He wasn't just a large man. He was a man possessed of a body which could make the greatest sportsmen and the strongest bodybuilders go green with envy.

If this man had actually believed everything in this phony training manual and, through trial and error and unimaginable effort, actually completed every single exercise in the book... Yes, in that case, such a superhuman body would not be entirely unbelievable. But what was it that had driven him to persevere through such hardship? This was beyond the limit of what simple determination or belief could achieve.

"...Why did you want to become a ninja so much? Did you watch too much Teenage Muta-"

Falcon's eyes suddenly flared with rage, his quiet voice rising to a roaring shout.

"Speak not of the turtles!!"

Rock unconsciously shrunk back, reacting instinctively to the sudden and terrifying change in the man's behavior. But soon enough Falcon, too, seemed to recover, and bowed his head low.

"...There can be no excuse for my loss of control. I see that my training is still incomplete; I offer my humblest apologies."

"N-no! That's fine! I'm the one who's sorry! I shouldn't have said that."

Rock added a new rule to the list in his head: Never mention the turtles.

Shadow Falcon, on the other hand, drew himself up to answer the question, his eyes growing unfocused as he delved deep into his memories.

"I... Yes, that's right. I only wanted to become stronger. I wanted to change myself. I wanted to stop being bullied at school. But..."

The blue-eyed ninja paused, giving the scroll on the wall a deeply meaningful glance.

"After countless days meditating on the character nin (忍), I came to a revelation. What is important is not the sword (刃), but the heart (心) that supports it."

"Oh... Okay... Hmm..."

Would whoever had thought up O.C.M. feel guilt at beguiling an innocent boy with such a preposterous scam and leading him so far astray from a normal life? Or would he smile and sit back in his chair, content at a job well done?

"...But wait, you even ordered the sword in the mail? No, no. That can't be."

Suddenly overcome by curiosity, Rock ignored the voices in his head telling him this was a bad idea and pointed slowly at the sword on its rack.

"Uhh, if you don't mind, could I take a look at that sword?"

The ninja considered it for a moment and then, apparently having decided that Rock was trustworthy enough, nodded and removed the sword from its resting place.

"It is a dangerous blade, and I bid you to exercise the utmost caution when using it."

Rock took the warning to heart, gulping hard as he carefully drew the sword from its scabbard.

...The blade had been carefully honed and polished, but no matter how meticulously they were cleaned, weapons that had taken many lives had a way of retaining the scent of blood, and Falcon's sword was one such weapon. Rock found himself nearly at a loss for words, his suspicions confirmed.

"...Do you always use this sword to kill people?"

"It is so. It is a fearsome demon blade forged from the hatred of the master smith Tanaka San. Its name is Izayoi Edge Number 108."

Rock realized once again just how fearsome the man in front of him was. He'd somehow managed to kill people with a sword made of duralumin.

"The hatred held within its edge causes even the slightest of cuts to rupture mercilessly into gaping wounds. When I was yet a novice, I was unable to tame such dread power and destroyed 107 of its brethren."

To Rock it sounded like Falcon had just beaten people to death instead of cutting them down, the "gaping wounds" caused by his sheer strength, but he no longer had the will to even attempt correcting the misunderstanding. And as for the master smith who'd somehow mustered the hatred to imbue no less than one hundred and eight blades with demonic rage, well, Rock reflected there could be worse outlets for that sort of thing.

"So, you're going to take this sword and beat- err, I mean, cut down Mister Chang?"

"Chang's lair is heavily guarded. It will be impossible to bring the Izayoi Edge Number 108. Therefore, I must use genwaku no jutsu(9) to infiltrate his fortress."

"Ge, genwaku no jutsu?"

"I have heard you called Rock, but I know that is not your real name. Would you honor me by revealing it?"

Rock floundered for a moment, taken off guard by the sudden question, and replied before he could even think the matter over properly.

"Rokuro... It's Okajima Rokuro. But why?"

"Rokuro-dono. I will take on your face and your name to destroy the evil of Chang Wai-San."

"What?"

Shadow Falcon raised one hand calmly, as though to alleviate Rock's fears.

"It will only be a fleeting moment. I promise you that I will not tarnish your reputation. I have merely observed from your conversations on the boat that you are in close relations with Chang Wai-San. Therefore, if I transform into you and approach Chang, I will be able to fool his guards. All I ask of you is to stay here until my mission is complete."

"..."

So this was what Falcon had meant by "acquiesce to my requests." But it wasn't really like he could refuse now.

Rock couldn't be sure of just how much of a threat this strange man would pose to Chang and the Triad, but the matter was out of his hands. He could only hope that Chang wouldn't let his guard down.

"You're going to transform into me? How?"

"At the pinnacle of the ninja arts, falsehoods become truths, and reality becomes a lie. The ninja technique utsushimi no jutsu(10) will make it easy to assume your visage."

With no further delay, Shadow Falcon immediately began taking out clothes and makeup in preparation.

...One hour later.

The ninja observed his face in the mirror and nodded in satisfaction.

"Perfect."

"..."

Rock couldn't find it in himself to say anything in reply.

The result. "I am a Japanese salaryman."

It also reminds me of Kung Fu Hustle.

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#594: Apr 16th 2015 at 1:24:54 PM

How It Should Have Ended.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
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#595: Apr 16th 2015 at 1:33:32 PM

Nah, the new designs are decent. Actually they're so cluttered with unnecessary detail, they're barely noticeable at all.

Except for Donatello. He used to be a Genius Bruiser, but they turned him into a nerd stereotype, with ridiculous goggles and all. He did make good use of them, though, so it's not a totally idiotic addition, but it still irks me.

Raphael was at his most hilarious ever, though.

edited 16th Apr '15 1:36:41 PM by TheHandle

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#596: Apr 23rd 2015 at 12:16:19 PM

So Tyler Perry has been cast as Baxter Stockman for the sequel.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#597: Apr 23rd 2015 at 12:32:51 PM

I sometimes forget he can do stuff that isn't Madea.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#598: May 28th 2015 at 5:13:03 PM

Sorry for the Double Post

Sheamus from the WWE is gonna be Rocksteady.

edited 28th May '15 5:17:10 PM by GethKnight

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#599: May 28th 2015 at 10:50:32 PM

And that post leads into some other cool photos. New Shredder, New Karai (uncertain if the same as the first movie character or someone entirely new), turtle performers on set.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#600: May 29th 2015 at 8:25:52 AM

I haven't seen the first TMNT movie (closest I got to that was the Nostalgia Critic and the Angry Video Game Nerd's review of it a few months back), but...

What if the Karai from the first one was actually either...

  • A) An imposter who tried to refer to herself as the daughter of the leader of the Foot Clan in an effort to be more imposing to her underlings.

  • B) Someone who just happened to be named Karai by pure chance.

But hey, I sense that this new director really didn't like how the first one turned out and is planning some big retcons to make this one at least a little less bad.


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