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Deadlock Clock: Apr 28th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Leaper Since: May, 2009
#1: Mar 13th 2012 at 7:14:54 PM

OK, I will concede that there may be nothing wrong with this name. But just hear me out.

1) I suggest, given the description, a tweak to Promoted to Playable, as I thought that this trope was limited to just unlockable characters (which said description clearly says is not the case). Obviously, given the nature of this "complaint," I can't accurately track "misuse."

2) Even if you don't believe #1 should hold, I had trouble searching for this title, which made me realize that there's a lot of similarly named tropes (Promoted Fanboy, Promotion to Parent, Promotion To Opening Credits, Promoted to Scapegoat) that are about 50/50 whether they use "Promotion" or "Promoted." I think we should standardize for ease of search (at least amongst the ones that are at least somewhat relatable).

Thoughts?

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Mar 13th 2012 at 11:18:16 PM

I like how you demonstrated the "Promoted/Promotion" confusion by linking to the wrong one.:) (I fixed it.)

Somebody should really check for misuse, but I must say my gut reaction is that Promoted to Playable is a clearly superior name. When I saw this thread title, I assumed the trope was about normal playable characters becoming unlockable characters in a sequel.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#3: Mar 13th 2012 at 11:44:08 PM

You don't even need to do a wick check; just look through the example section. Everything on this page, including the description, treats the trope like it's Promoted to Playable.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Mar 14th 2012 at 6:54:24 AM

I agree with abk 0100 that a wick check is not actually necessary. The second sentence of the trope's description itself mentions that the characters need not actually be unlockable and the examples on the page flow from that definition.

They may be hidden unlockable characters, you might get the chance to recruit them, or they might be presented outright at the character select screen.
In that sense, I think calling the trope Promoted to Unlockable is a bit misleading since that title is narrower than what the trope really covers.

As for the second point about standardizing the "promotion/promoted" trope names, I am not sure that really is needed. As far as I can tell, so long as you make the other variants of those names redirects, searching should not be too big of an issue.

edited 14th Mar '12 6:54:55 AM by LouieW

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#7: Mar 23rd 2012 at 10:44:49 AM

Wha? How did the name get changed to Promoted to Playable? Not that I take issue with the name, but what happened?

[up]Promoted to Playable is more concise and just as clear.

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#8: Mar 23rd 2012 at 12:17:32 PM

I guess Etheru did it.

Anyone have any objections, or should we start changing the wicks?

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#9: Mar 23rd 2012 at 1:39:09 PM

From someone not involved in the discussion, I see nothing wrong what what's been done.

The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#10: Mar 23rd 2012 at 4:14:28 PM

The name change itself seems like a no-brainer, but I'm not totally sure I'm cool with procedure being circumvented like this.

I think I'll holler for a mod's opinion on this.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#11: Mar 23rd 2012 at 4:20:55 PM

Also was just a page content swap with redirect, wicks left (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/PromotedToUnlockable), no change to Renamed Tropes or post on thread, discussion page unedited.

edited 25th Mar '12 12:26:53 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Okay Guy
#12: Mar 25th 2012 at 11:17:37 AM

Hmm, doesn't seem like I'm gonna get a response.

Well, I think we should do a crowner first. Skipping procedure sets a bad precedent and a crowner probably won't have any trouble getting votes anyway.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Mar 25th 2012 at 11:20:59 AM

First, it's https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/PromotedToUnlockable in [up][up].

Second, queries like the one in [up] usually go in Ask The Tropers.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#14: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:24:05 AM

Clocking due to lack of activity.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#15: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:46:38 AM

Well, it's been a month and no one's complained about the change, so I guess I'll just assume it's okay and start moving the wicks.

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