Yeah, I think all the "moment" pages are overloaded as well, but given that the criteria for putting them on the page is "I found this funny/awesome/scary/whatever", there's no hard and fast reason to remove them other than "I think these don't fit", and that's never been a valid reason to remove examples. I mean, I agree that like half the entries on those pages don't deserve to be on there, but with a fandom as enormous as MLP's it's kinda inevitable that somebody is going to think of a particular joke as funny enough to merit being listed.
Reaction Image RepositoryI'm afraid that if we clean up the moment pages that they'll be shorter than the Dethroning Moment of Suck page.
So... are we just going to leave that page too?
edited 12th Mar '12 10:57:45 AM by SuperiorSerperior
Unless The example is blatantly shoehorned in, I don;t think removing things from the pages is the way to go. Remember, Its all subjective. What you think may not be what someone else thinks. You might not even be a majority in thinking an example doesn't belong.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.And denattering, too. I looked over to FridgeHorror.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic and it was, like 40% Thread Mode and Natter.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanYeah, a good denattering and removal any duplicate entries would help quite a bit.
Reaction Image RepositoryI just don't know why the "moment" pages have to exist. Sure, I've in occasion enjoyed reading some of them, but I still don't get what they have to do with TV Tropes mission.
TV Tropes is about storytelling devices, and the reactions of the audience, such as the Moments, are a big part of it.
Anyway, this is a philosphical debate that is better served in a dedicated thread, not here.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanOk, my point being: as long as TV Tropes allow for "moment" pages, we'll have people filling them, so why to remove items? Why some items should be removed and others not?
Those are actual questions, not rhetorical ones.
Honestly, I don't know either. I think because MLP has such a huge fandom that single-person examples become frequent here and these aren't really valid examples.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI still don't see what's a "proper" example. The way I saw things until now, other pages not-MLP just appear to have "proper" examples because they have few.
Moments are allowed to be personal reactions. It would be pretty ridiculous if we tried to enforce an objective standard of "No, that's not awesome enough."
Rhymes with "Protracted."The problem is that they are valid entires. As far as I can tell, the only criteria for putting something on those pages is "I thought this was worth putting up". Even if everyone else doesn't think so, it's still valid because someone had that reaction.
Also this.
edited 12th Mar '12 12:19:53 PM by JapaneseTeeth
Reaction Image Repository^This. I am getting the feeling that some people equate large size of subjective pages = Trope Decay. True for Ensemble Dark Horse but not for, say, Accidental Nightmare Fuel.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman.
edited 23rd Jul '17 2:56:42 PM by Jicragg
I think those are in there because you wouldn't normally see references to alcoholic drinks or lingerie in a kids' show.
Reaction Image RepositoryYes you do. It's called Parental Bonus and it's really damn common. Especially stuff like that that flies over kids' heads.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick.
edited 23rd Jul '17 2:56:34 PM by Jicragg
Okay, yeah, I phrased that badly. I meant that it's referring to thinks it would be mildly inappropriate for the target audience to know about. Anyway, does Parental Bonus count as Getting Crap Past the Radar?
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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:56:25 PM by Jicragg
Ok, the bottles look like general bottles that all sorts of drinks come in. Water and soda also come in bottles that look like that. The problem here is that apparently tropers don't realise that the radar is much higher than they actually think it is. None of that is even close to radar triggering.
What you're doing is complaining about the show going 20 mph when the speed limit is 35. The trope isn't for anything even vaguely adult maybe if you squint in a kids show.
edited 13th Mar '12 8:22:51 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickJust curious: in a season two episode, Twilight lures Pinkie into an alleyway with sweets, holds her down while covering her mouth and tells her not to scream. Is the rape reference there or just older fans remembering Stranger Danger?
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.Yeah, some of the Radar stuff is just... Maybe I am from an older, more open minded time, but is mention of alcohol really worth counting as Getting Crap Past the Radar? I mean, yes, some show do censor alcohol (Frothy Mugs of Water), but has it become such a default state that the mere mention of alcohol existing counts as Getting Crap Past the Radar? I was raised on Tintin where one of the character is a raging alcoholic...
Seems like an example of Does This Remind You of Anything?
edited 13th Mar '12 8:30:33 AM by Ghilz
@emeriin : I don't see a rape reference. If at least if was a villian...
Not even that
edited 13th Mar '12 8:34:39 AM by osias
You're probably right. I'd be more freaked if it was intentional.
I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.
MLP:FIM's moments pages are just an example of the same problem that tends to plague moments pages in general; namely, that stronger examples get diminished by mentions of weaker ones.
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