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Not Thriving: Breast Sponge get usage counts

 126 Marq FJA, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:11:42 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
[up] Okay, so what kind of crowner? We are currently discussing expanding the trope, and renaming it accordingly, with a possible splitting off of specific subtrope(s) if the relevant examples are numerous enough.
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 127 Septimus Heap, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:12:58 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
[up]Single prop. If the trope isn't thriving, we should wait until it thrives before splitting subtropes off.

 128 Marq FJA, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:15:01 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
... And how does one make crowners? Because I don't remember there being a guide to crowner-making or a visible "click here to make a crowner" button anywhere, despite numerous requests for it.
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 129 lu 127, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:17:20 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
You go in FAQ. How to fix a trope.

Or How Crowners Work.
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 130 Septimus Heap, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:19:40 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Nevermind. I'll do it.

ETA: Done and hook-hollered.

edited 9th Apr '12 7:21:04 AM by SeptimusHeap

 131 Best Of, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:22:20 AM from Finland Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
With Mod Hat On
Crowner hooked.
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 132 Marq FJA, Mon, 9th Apr '12 7:24:20 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Shouldn't the question be "Expand Breast Sponge's definition"?
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 133 Spark 9, Mon, 9th Apr '12 8:22:24 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] If the trope is expanded to cover more than just breasts, then it should be renamed to reflect that. Conversely, if the trope is not renamed, then it doesn't really make sense to expand it either. So it's the same question.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 134 Marq FJA, Mon, 9th Apr '12 8:24:04 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Then make it "Expand and rename Breast Sponge", then. We want to be clear about what's going to be implemented.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 135 Troacctid, Mon, 9th Apr '12 9:17:28 AM from California
The trope is thriving. It's gotten hundreds of inbounds since it was renamed. It has a small number of examples because it doesn't occur very often in fiction.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 136 Spark 9, Mon, 9th Apr '12 9:28:12 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] It occurs very often in the kinds of fiction that this wiki doesn't like to write about, though.

Also, there's an established real-world term for it, and where possible we should default to using existing terms rather than terms we made up.

And 550 inbounds for a sex-related trope? That's really not a lot.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 137 Troacctid, Mon, 9th Apr '12 9:33:09 AM from California
If we don't have pages for works that it occurs in, of course the wick count is going to be relatively low. tongue
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 138 Marq FJA, Mon, 9th Apr '12 10:44:49 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
No, I'm fairly certain that we have lots of works with pages that have this trope either actually occurring, discussed/mentioned by a character, or being part of an Imagine Spot.
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 139 lebrel, Mon, 9th Apr '12 10:53:42 AM from Basement, Ivory Tower
Tsundere pet.
@137: I don't read the kind of stuff where this actually happens, but I've seen a fair number of (mostly joking) references in shoujo that we have pages for (if I come across it in the future I'll try to post the examples). References to the concept are not uncommon.
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.
Winged Doom
Bump. Any other thoughts?
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 141 Marq FJA, Sat, 14th Apr '12 5:57:05 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
The rename doesn't seem to be getting sufficient support.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Winged Doom
Then, what do we do? Have it closed?
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 143 Marq FJA, Sat, 14th Apr '12 6:10:51 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I think we should scrap this crowner, and do a new Single Proposition that actually describes in the "At issue" box the rationale for suggesting an expansion and rename for the trope. IIRC, in many cases much of a crowner's voters don't bother reading through the TRS in the first place, hence they might not understand why the trope needs a rename/expansion.
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 144 Septimus Heap, Sat, 14th Apr '12 6:28:56 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
[up]You can still add "at issue" to the current crowner.

 145 Spark 9, Sat, 14th Apr '12 7:17:40 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up][up] You've got a point: a crowner that doesn't explain why will just cause people to vote it down. Numerous people won't read a long thread before voting.

edited 14th Apr '12 7:17:58 AM by Spark9

Special trousers. Very heroic.
 146 Marq FJA, Sat, 14th Apr '12 7:36:31 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Okay, so what do we put in the "At issue" box? We don't want it to be too long, nor do we want it to be too short or lacking in important points. Reasons so far are that it's not thriving despite a previous rename, and that it's been noted that the core concept is much broader than the trope's launcher had thought.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Winged Doom
"Expand Breast Sponge to any usage of bare body to wash another person, and rename accordingly", or something similar. Would that work?

edited 14th Apr '12 8:22:48 AM by OneMore

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 148 Spark 9, Sat, 14th Apr '12 8:36:19 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] Perhaps add a note that the common usage of this trope uses more than just boobs.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 149 Marq FJA, Sat, 14th Apr '12 9:26:27 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
That sounds like something that would go into the single-propostion option itself.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Someone cutlisted this trope. I objected to the cutlisting and posted a link to this thread on the discussion page.
Fzzr Miller because underscores are broken

Alternative Titles: Breast Sponge
6th May '12 3:53:25 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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