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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Feb 25th 2012 at 2:24:20 PM

Okay, this is tricky. The image shows what appears to be an Inter Species Marriage. I think that's supposed to be Bowser and the princess from Mario, but the princess really doesn't look like that, and I think that marrying her is Rule 34 rather than the plot of any actual Mario game. So that would make them not an example.

Also, the picture doesn't show that he's a villain, that he's abducted her, or that the marriage is forced.

I don't think this is a good illustration of the trope, but would like some other people's thoughts on the matter.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#2: Feb 25th 2012 at 6:50:30 PM

It's from one of the comics, and it is an example.

The description does say, "This is often a G-rated version of Rape as Drama – in fact, the whole concept usually carries at least an implicit threat of rape when you think about it," which pretty much means there's an implied Rule 34 there.

Horns and spikes does show hints of him being a villain. She looks like a princess, and princess don't tend to want to marry villains.

It's also the best picture suggested thus far with absolutely no competition.

edited 25th Feb '12 6:52:20 PM by Feather7603

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KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#3: Feb 25th 2012 at 7:35:43 PM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested

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#4: Feb 25th 2012 at 7:37:13 PM

I don't mind the pic, but I'd like to see a larger version that has more of what's going on around it.

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#5: Feb 25th 2012 at 7:40:50 PM

The bride does not provide any explicit visual cues, so this really is not a very good image. Not really sans replacement worthy, though.

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Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Mar 3rd 2012 at 2:56:53 PM

Well, comparable to the example image for Rule 63, everyone recognizes Bowser and Princess Peach and knows that he wants to forcibly marry her. But on the other hand, this particular scene from Super Mario Adventures is with Peach under a spell, which is why she's not visibly objecting to it. Also, more recent game storylines (such as Super Mario Sunshine) have made the subject of a possible past relationship between the two less of an emphatic "no" and more of a "probably" (considering Peach had to think about whether Bowser Jr. was her son, implying that she probably likely did have Bowser's child before). There could be a better image, I agree. For now, I think this is better than nothing. When a better image comes along, use it.

edited 3rd Mar '12 2:57:51 PM by Gilgameshkun

Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
Gilgamesh
#7: Mar 3rd 2012 at 3:08:04 PM

Here's an alternative scene from the same graphic novel, that may provide a better image.

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#8: Mar 3rd 2012 at 3:08:40 PM

Too many panels, text is too small to read

Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
Gilgamesh
#9: Mar 3rd 2012 at 3:22:06 PM

Okay. Does one of the panels demonstrate it well by itself though?

Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
Gilgamesh
#10: Mar 3rd 2012 at 3:31:07 PM

Here's another swing at it.

Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
Gilgamesh
#12: Mar 3rd 2012 at 6:05:03 PM

What does everyone else think?

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#14: Mar 3rd 2012 at 10:05:18 PM

I think it's good. smile

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#15: Mar 3rd 2012 at 10:54:56 PM

That version with the panels the same height looks better. I'm okay with it.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#16: Mar 4th 2012 at 2:22:22 AM

It's a big improvement, but I would like to also have the turn-to-stone panel in there to show that he's a villain and he's not just asking her.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#18: Mar 4th 2012 at 1:55:18 PM

"...you're going to have to..." doesn't seem like a request.

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Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
Gilgamesh
#19: Mar 4th 2012 at 3:52:46 PM

Indeed, "you're going to have to" is coercive.

Gilgameshkun Gilgamesh Since: Jan, 2001
Gilgamesh
#20: Mar 8th 2012 at 2:22:06 PM

No more comment or followup? Sounds like this image pickin' discussion is concluded.

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#21: Mar 8th 2012 at 2:58:01 PM

The Bowser one is excellent.

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#22: Apr 23rd 2012 at 7:06:01 AM

Yeah, that one works just fine, and since this is at the clocking point, I think we'll just run with it. Locking up.

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