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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#1: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:09:33 PM

See my first post in this thread, the one that seems to have been locked prematurely.

Alright, I guess I can repeat it anyway.

The image here is also on Troperiffic. Personally, I think it should be removed from this page and left on the other one. The list of tropes aspect is well suited to that page.

And I agree with abk 0100's suggestion, especially considering it is not in English, so one would not have to worry about reading it all to get the point.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#2: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:23:59 PM

source: zeit online

translation: literature on the Internet — Fortunately No Wikipedia! — Conventions, conventions and oh, conventions: the website TV Tropes divides stories into (?) individual parts. A funny, wild collection. By Stefan Mesch — In childrens' books, why are girls smarter than boys? Who first made the butler the murderer? And how come...

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edited 22nd Feb '12 7:28:28 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:26:10 PM

I still say this picture belongs here, as it's a reference to TV Tropes more than illustrating the other trope.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:32:30 PM

Current image: a reference to TV Tropes from Cracked.com. It involves a lot of tropes.

Both images are a reference from one source, but one of them is troperiffic. It's too bad that headline says Wikipedia and not TV Tropes tho.

edited 22nd Feb '12 7:32:55 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#5: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:35:28 PM

What if I bold "TV Tropes"?

Makes it stand out a bit more, doesn't it? And on the Troperiffic thing, I still prefer that the Cracked picture stay on that page because it is describing a work that would be Troperiffic. Shows the meat and potatoes of that trope better than another image I'd be able to find, and this article is clearly also a reference to TV Tropes.

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#6: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:36:59 PM

Yeah, we've been trying to get away from defining ourselves in terms of Wikipedia. Both are wikis. That's about all the comparison you can make.

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#7: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:38:11 PM

[up] In other words, the suggestion gives the wrong idea to someone who doesn't know German? 'Cause that would be a good reason not to put it on the page. Or are you talking about the translation in post 2?

edited 22nd Feb '12 8:12:21 PM by FinalStarman

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#8: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:45:57 PM

I should also add that Troperiffic requires a bit more than is in the picture. For while it states tropes by name, that just means a work has a lot of tropes, not that they are played up to high degrees.

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#9: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:50:50 PM

[up] It looks like that made-up movie prides itself on its tropes. It doesn't seem to be ashamed of itself for it.

EDIT: Come to think of it, the Zeit suggestion doesn't need the headline. It would actually be misleading to keep it in, since the article is not about Wikipedia. Also, would keeping the author's name in be a bad idea? Would removing the name be a bad idea? And that little copyright thing on top of the article's image?

edited 22nd Feb '12 8:17:21 PM by FinalStarman

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#10: Apr 7th 2012 at 6:57:39 AM

Clock is set. Are we good with [up]?

Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#11: Apr 7th 2012 at 8:14:20 AM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 1:11:05 PM by Jicragg

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#12: Apr 7th 2012 at 8:22:37 AM

[up] I think that'd work better as a page example, if it's not already there.

Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#13: Apr 7th 2012 at 8:27:23 AM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 1:10:36 PM by Jicragg

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14: Apr 7th 2012 at 10:51:46 AM

Small translation issue: "Klischee(s)" is Cliché in English.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#15: Apr 7th 2012 at 5:07:59 PM

???

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Apr 8th 2012 at 1:42:38 AM

Talking about this translation.

literature on the Internet — Fortunately No Wikipedia! — Cliches, cliches and oh, cliches: the website TV Tropes divides stories into their narrative components. A funny, wild collection. By Stefan Mesch — In childrens' books, why are girls often allowed to be much smarter than all boys around them? Who first made the butler the murderer? And how come...

I have some misgivings about an image that uses "Cliché" three times at the start.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#17: Apr 11th 2012 at 7:00:27 AM

[up] A caption that notes this in some way?

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#18: Apr 11th 2012 at 7:34:24 AM

You know you want to... Here... Do it! the image demands you to.

edited 11th Apr '12 7:45:53 AM by Raso

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TheThnikkaman Phinatic Since: Apr, 2011
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#19: Apr 11th 2012 at 7:49:54 AM

I'm all for the German news site.

[up] Might be better if we circle the part on top.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#20: Apr 11th 2012 at 10:00:49 AM

[up][up] Nice, and agreeing with [up].

petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#21: Apr 11th 2012 at 11:08:51 AM

Is that an official sub?

Also, the page could use some cleanup. "Printed media, blogs, and other publications" section should probably be split apart and cleaned up. References from offline sources should be made into their own section. The fanfiction section should be purged, as the page is notable references.

edited 11th Apr '12 11:13:22 AM by petrie911

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#23: Apr 11th 2012 at 12:16:47 PM

Read the page title. It says "Notable". If there's no such thing as Notability, then the title needs to change.

Maybe I should make a TRS thread about it.

edited 11th Apr '12 12:17:28 PM by petrie911

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#24: Apr 11th 2012 at 12:59:16 PM

I knew I should've stuck a wink on that post...I really don't care one way or the other as far as that particular point goes. That being said, TINSTAN does specifically say "We consider every work notable. Yes, every one." so there's that to consider.

edited 11th Apr '12 1:01:11 PM by Willbyr

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#25: Apr 11th 2012 at 3:26:30 PM

I think the message there isn't that notability is non-existent, but that all works are equally notable. Properly it is There Is No Such Thing As A Lack Of Notability.

edited 11th Apr '12 3:27:12 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

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