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Aquillion Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Feb 21st 2012 at 3:54:26 PM

The image for Batman Can Breathe in Space is just a pic of the Trope Namer, with no actual reference to the trope. Specifically, it's an image of batman, in space — wearing what looks like a glass thingy over his mouth to let him breathe.

That's the exact opposite of what the trope is about, isn't it?

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Feb 21st 2012 at 4:08:40 PM

That isn't a breathing device in that picture.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#3: Feb 21st 2012 at 4:30:45 PM

It's Batman. And he's breathing in space, seeing as that glass thing isn't completely covering his head. I fail to see how this doesn't picture the trope.

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girlyboy Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Feb 21st 2012 at 4:57:03 PM

Trope is that some characters, especially super-heroes, are portrayed as being able to breathe in the vacuum of space.

The picture is a superhero character, visibly in the vacuum of space, and visibly without any means of breathing, given that the glass thing around his mouth is visibly not covering his head, and generally obviously has no way to actually keep air in, or supply him with it. Also the character is obviously not in any particular distress.

Trope successfully illustrated.

At most it can be said that the glass thing is an attempt to Hand Wave the issue — "oh, he can breathe in space because, uh, umm — glass thing. Some sort of glass thing. In fair proximity to his mouth. Let's not think about it." I don't think such a half-hearted — and entirely assumed, since none of this is actually stated anywhere — Hand Wave is enough to disqualify this as an example of the trope.

edited 21st Feb '12 4:58:25 PM by girlyboy

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#5: Feb 21st 2012 at 5:00:21 PM

The current pic is alright, but Cerebus has the titular character on the Moon, and later drifting through the solar system, with no spacesuit of any kind at all...having a devil of a time finding good pics right now, as soon as I find some I'll post links.

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Feb 21st 2012 at 5:27:11 PM

I like the current, and I always am biased towards Trope Namers in the case where one exists. I don't know why, I just think it makes sense.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#7: Feb 21st 2012 at 6:06:33 PM

[up] I generally tend toward the same. Although there is the issue that, occasionally, no image of the trope namer illustrates the trope... which I don't think is the case here, this is illustrated well enough.

Moon
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#8: Feb 21st 2012 at 6:23:41 PM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested

girlyboy Since: Jan, 2001
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#10: Feb 21st 2012 at 7:57:20 PM

No images, not even the best ones, are "keep forever".

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#11: Feb 21st 2012 at 8:05:30 PM

[up] ...barring administrative mandate, I would imagine. tongue

Moon
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#12: Feb 21st 2012 at 8:11:15 PM

Dammit, this is pissing me off...GIS isn't turning up any of the specific shots I'm thinking of. Here are the covers to some of the issues of Cerebus I'm thinking of, but they're not really clear enough: Flying through the asteroid belt, facing Jupiter, hovering in space

I think I'm going to have to break out my phonebooks and see if I can get some clean scans from them...might not work.

edited 21st Feb '12 8:12:06 PM by Willbyr

nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010
#13: Feb 21st 2012 at 9:05:39 PM

Here's Sam And Max on the moon.

Guess those candybutt astronauts didn't have the stones to try it.

Edited for a clearer picture, got more of the lunar lander in it, and Max is facing forward.

edited 21st Feb '12 11:06:05 PM by nitrokitty

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#14: Feb 21st 2012 at 9:08:06 PM

[up] The fact that there is a car on the moon only improves that image. smile

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#16: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:57:43 AM

I was gonna suggest an image from My Bride Is A Mermaid where Nagasumi gets launched to the moon. He's completely naked (though properly censered).

I like the Sam And Max pic though just because they have the desoto with them up there on the moon.

The current problem I see with the current pic is that it doesn't show enough of the space aspect of the trope.

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#17: Feb 22nd 2012 at 8:12:58 AM

Sam and Max is great. Put it up.

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#19: Feb 22nd 2012 at 9:27:06 AM

Don't we need a crowner before changing images?

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#20: Feb 22nd 2012 at 9:32:47 AM

Only if there are several proposals and none has a super-consensus.

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Anzua Since: Feb, 2011
#21: Feb 22nd 2012 at 10:22:42 AM

While the Sam and Max picture is good, there are several pictures, like the one currently used, of Batman breathing in space, and considering the trope is mostly about heroes/superheroes, I'd vote to keep Batman.

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#22: Feb 22nd 2012 at 10:30:53 AM

It's not mostly about heroes/superheroes. This trope just has a bad name. It's about being able to breathe in space, period.

I just realized that that's all the more reason NOT to have Batman as the page pic, since it would lead to the misunderstanding that this is a superhero-specific trope.

edited 22nd Feb '12 10:41:35 AM by KaiserMazoku

EnragedFilia Since: Oct, 2010
#23: Feb 22nd 2012 at 11:05:10 AM

According to the description it's more like "some characters are inexplicably able to breathe in space, especially superheroes". I have an old flash animation in which Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy go to the moon, where they meet Al Gore (who stowed away on the space shuttle) and Marion Barry (who's just hanging out getting high).

Anyway, the Sam and Max pic is pretty good.

nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010
#25: Feb 22nd 2012 at 2:17:45 PM

So it seems everyone likes the Sam And Max pic, I'll wait till tomorrow to see if there's any serious objections and then I'll throw it up.


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