This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"
Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.
If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces
instead.
For easier reference, I've numbered my questions:
- #1: Where do animated films go? They seem to be distributed rather inconsistenly over Film/ (Puss In Boots, Whats Opera Doc), WesternAnimation/ (Disneys Anne Frank, Snow White), Anime/ (Princess Mononoke) and Disney/ (Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Der Fuehrers Face).
- #2: There are a few songs which have their own pages ("Pirate Jenny"). Where do they go – to Music/ or to Literature/ ?
- #3: Where do composers go – to Music/ , or are they to be treated like other creators, which hitherto stay on Main/ ?
- #4: Where do Talk Shows, Game Shows and News Broadcasts go? I guess you could call these formats Live-Action TV but they're not really "TV series", as in Series/.
- #5: Am I right in assuming that Puppet Shows go to Series/ ?
- #6: What about “hybrid shows”, i.e. segment shows that incorporate both live action and animation? (e.g. Die Sendung Mit Der Maus)
- #7: Where to put picture books? I am thinking of books like Der Struwwelpeter and Max and Moritz — books that are really not complete without their illustrations. They are not (yet) ComicBook/s, but to sort them under Literature/ feels a little unsatisfactory too.
- #8: The rule is to put works into the namespace of their original medium. However, once in a while there is a work which is little known in its original medium, and almost exclusively known by its adaptation. I’m thinking of Das Boot, for example: there's a novel, but it is almost exclusively known by the Petersen movie.
- #9: Should One Book Authors who are invariably tied to a single work be treated as a creator or a work page rather?— Currently, we have Samuel Pepys and Herodotus, but shouldn't these pages be at Literature/The Diary of Samuel Pepys and Literature/The Histories rather?
- #10: There are cases where I’m unsure whether to use the English or the original title. Is there are hard rule that determines whether Der Ring Des Nibelungen goes to Theatre/Der Ring des Nibelungen or Theatre/The Ring of the Nibelung? Even Wikipedia uses the original title.
I'd be grateful for input.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 9th 2023 at 8:15:08 PM
Hello! Quick question, I started putting together a work page for Twelve Reasons Why I Love Her, but I kinda fudged up a bit, I didn't put: "Comic Book/" in front of the title, and now its indexed under "Main", how can I fix this?
edited 30th Oct '12 10:19:19 AM by Basterd
How To Move A Page tells the instructions.
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Thanks! I'll get to it tight away!
OK, all done! Page also has a picture now! :D
Ok, I am probably stepping into a hornet's nest here - is Chekovs Gun a trope or a Just for Fun page? Should it stay in /Main/ or go to a namespace? Moderatorsnote ?
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I obviously can't give an "official" answer, but seems like putting it in a namespace ruins the joke, since misspelled links will never redirect you there.
edited 3rd Nov '12 7:22:30 PM by troacctid
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Unless you make the Main/ page itself a redirect to the namespaced version.
Where did I say that I wouldn't redirect the main page if it turned out that it belonged into another namespace?
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It is a joke that works best in Main. Let's be careful to avoid obsessive classification.
edited 4th Nov '12 1:53:05 PM by FastEddie
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Thanks.
Now, next question: It's officially agreed on that all Administrivia, Useful Notes and Just for Fun pages (except those with dedicated namespaces and Chekovs Gun, and Administrivia that double as index or Wiki Tropes) pages ought to go to their respective namespaces, yes? Or are there exceptions?
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Lost in Space
I can't imagine that we'd want any exceptions to that policy.
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Should the Disney Animated Canon get the Western Animation namespace or the Franchise namespace?
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Disney has its own namespace.
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I know that. All of Disney's movies have its own namepsace, but I'm talking about the Disney Animated Canon page itself, which is still in the Main namespace.
Lost in Space
Will do.
Also, should I or should I not redirect Franchise.Main to Franchise Index?
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Not really, but Home Page would look neater as a redirect.
edited 5th Nov '12 12:50:15 PM by SeptimusHeap
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Well... I did redirect Franchise to Franchise Index. Should that be undone?
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No, and it's not topic of this thread. There is a Special Efforts thread for Redirect Farming.
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This thread had trouble deciding in which namespace to put Jenny Everywhere. My suggestion is Franchise/.
This looks like a special case - but I am fine with Franchise/.
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It appears to me that motion capture films are currently going in the Film namespace: examples include Beowulf, Mars Needs Moms, and Tintin.
Discuss.
I am not sure where to tuck Gossip Girl and The Vampire Diaries. Both were originally books adapted in television series, but I have no idea how close the adaptations are to the original books.
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A question on my own: Under which formula should items on Administrivia and Predefined Messages be moved to Administrivia/? Most of the pages there are guideline pages, but a few double as Wiki Tropes and/or as critical policy pages like Complaining About Shows You Dont Like.
edited 29th Oct '12 9:18:50 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman