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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15526: May 12th 2016 at 6:04:35 PM

Plus, his eyes were pointing in opposite directions, so perhaps he'd lost depth perception.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15527: May 12th 2016 at 6:09:45 PM

Gilles' feast for Jeanne would likely involve a lot of tentacles and very little eating. Well, very little eating for Jeanne anyway.

Jeanne Alter was safe from that because she's both incredibly violent and able to surround herself in hellfire at any moment.

(Unfortunately, much like Brynhildr, she's more likely to kill you the more she loves you... Though she will walk all the way to hell with you. So that's a good thing.)

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#15528: May 16th 2016 at 10:43:26 AM

So, i heard that Kiritsugu is a Counter Guardian in GO. Is this true?

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VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#15530: May 16th 2016 at 12:19:56 PM

Huh....that's interesting. Does he look any different, or does his appearance take from Zero?

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#15531: May 16th 2016 at 12:25:04 PM

He's been EMIYA-fied. People thought he was EMIYA at first. Incidentally, his profile mentions that he can only be a thing because if Grand Order shenanigans.

VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#15532: May 16th 2016 at 12:39:10 PM

So, just very specific circumstances. Huh, hate to see the two battle it out, but would not be surprised if that happened.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15533: May 16th 2016 at 3:22:03 PM

To put it in simpler terms:

Because of the Singularity screwing up the timeline, the Einzberns didn't contract him to be the Master for Saber, he presumably died offscreen and made a pact with Alaya to become a Counter Guardian. He is subsequently deployed to stop the epic-level screw up that is the Accel Zero Order event, since it'll result in summoning Angra Mainyu 'n all, and helps the party do so (after some rough spots).

He actually stays behind to take down Angra Mainyu himself after the Party Ley-shifts back to safety. And no, it isn't a Heroic Sacrifice, he's fully confident he can win. Which... makes sense. Angra Mainyu is a hilariously weak servant even in-game, with a pathetic NP that requires serious effort to make even semi-viable (though, admittedly, his Quick buff would be amazingly broken on another servant like, say, Jack da Rippah). Once the singularity is regularized, he should basically cease to exist.

Of course, since Counter Guardians are not limited by time either, it's entirely likely he now exists in canon, depending on whether they're multiversal entities or not (which EMIYA kind of implies a bit). So yes, Counter Guardian Kiritsugu is now canonical and you can use him if you want.

And yes, FGO is canon. Not only is it written with Nasu's express approval and contribution (and increasingly more of the latter the more Nasu realizes that yes, people are still reading the story even though it's a mobage), but its very premise makes it incredibly easy to adapt to any timeline, simply because, by its very nature, it cannot take place in any timeline other than its own. How does that make it easy to adapt to any timeline? Simple. Because the end of FGO will likely be Chaldea resolving the crisis, setting time back on track and going back to square one, which means that you can tack any other universe right at the end of FGO without any real issue.

edited 16th May '16 3:28:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#15534: May 16th 2016 at 3:43:37 PM

Hmmm. I still find it amusing that despite all this time Kiritsugu had yet to become a Counter Guardian prior to FGO. Yet, a fanfic writer used that idea before it was considered canon. I originally heard about this from the writer himself when he updated his latest chapter today.

edited 16th May '16 3:44:50 PM by VoidsEmpathy

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15535: May 16th 2016 at 4:00:07 PM

I dunno. BL treats his name like a bad word.

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VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#15536: May 16th 2016 at 4:08:26 PM

Seriously? How bad is it?

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#15537: May 16th 2016 at 4:12:10 PM

.....................trying very desperately not to make some kind of Boys' Love joke.

VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15539: May 16th 2016 at 4:38:13 PM

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Its okay to be Takei.

VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#15540: May 16th 2016 at 5:08:37 PM

This is true.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15541: May 16th 2016 at 5:18:13 PM

And now, let's rejoice with the boys in Takei's way!

But seriously, the last time I saw that 'Kiritsugu as a Counter Guardian' fic brought up, it was basically the same reaction Tomahawk gets in the Negima fandom.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15542: May 16th 2016 at 5:21:48 PM

I hope this doesn't mean that Tomahawk's ideas are going to turn out to be canon...

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#15543: May 16th 2016 at 5:24:00 PM

Who do you think Ayaka's husband in UQ Holder is?

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15544: May 16th 2016 at 5:25:23 PM

She had a husband? I thought she got her kid by grafting her DNA so some of Asuna's...

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#15545: May 16th 2016 at 5:29:31 PM

No, Chachamaru especifically mentions Ayaka's husband to Mizore.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#15546: May 16th 2016 at 5:30:53 PM

Well, he's never been show, not even a shadowed outline, so that could just be a translating error[lol]

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#15547: May 16th 2016 at 5:35:20 PM

Most relatives in the Akamatsuverse apparently come from the Peanuts universe.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15548: May 16th 2016 at 5:37:02 PM

Nah, if I were her, I'd use Jack Rakan's DNA. Hey, if I'm gonna have a kid, might as well make an invincible kid that'll get very rich from overcharging his, or her I don't discriminate, clients.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#15549: May 16th 2016 at 6:26:18 PM

Ayaka's already filthy rich.

Also, is this the right thread for that conversation?

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#15550: May 16th 2016 at 8:01:01 PM

Didn't Kiritsugu become a Counter Guardian in Grand Order? Then again that's an alternate timeline.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

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