Fantastic Slurs are a distinct subtrope of Fantastic Racism that have their own patterns. They are often used in works that don't deal with racism as a whole just to add colour and depth to a word.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickOcarina Of Time has Ganondorf attempting the Zelda-world equivalent of genocide against the gorons, but doesn't address other aspects of racism. Should we have a separate trope for Fantastic Genocide?
"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon StewartEh, Fantastic Genocide isn't that different than regular Genocide. I'd really rather just make a general supertrope for Genocide which we're currently lacking. The only thing close is Final Solution. But genocide isn't all that different if it's fantastic or not.
The difference with Fantastic Slur is that the insults tend to be clever, creative, and say something about the fantasy races that standard human to human insults don't.
edited 16th Jan '12 9:17:26 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickSlurs aren't the same across different races. Other forms of racism tend to be the same. Thus any fantastic equivalent would be moot.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.This basically. Other subtropes don't have enough to make them distinct from their parents. This one does.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickFantastic Genocide is usually covered under Guilt-Free Extermination War (if you think that sounds like genocide, but is just given a different name to keep away people wanting to rant about how evil genocide is, congratulations, you win a cookie).
Fight smart, not fair.In my opinion, the large number of examples is sufficient justification to make this its own page, even if it is a subtrope.
BTW, anyone mind me cutting the Real Life examples from Fantastic Racism. The trope is inherently fiction only to begin with, and the examples are pretty BS and don't really fit the trope.
edited 16th Jan '12 3:58:00 PM by Catbert
Not at all. Axe them. This trope by definition can't have real life examples.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickFantastic Slurs is not only a form of Fantastic Racism, it is a way to create the feeling of fantatic culture. Like made up proverbs, swear word and so on. It belongs to the same family as Hold Your Hippogriffs and Oh, My Gods!.
It could possibly have real life examples. For instance, there are people out there who think they're vampires, and they're enemies of the people who think they're werewolves. If they have some kind of slur they use to refer to eachother, it would be an example.
Just to get all our relevant tropes on the table, Van Hellsing Hate Crimes covers at least some of what'd fall under Fantastic Hate Crimes. (EDIT: Or not. I coulda sworn that trope was around at some point.)
I also think that Fantastic Slurs has enough examples that it should be its own subtrope, if only because Fantastic Racism is so very broad a trope, and you can have Fantastic Racism in a work without including Fantastic Slurs.
edited 16th Jan '12 5:17:52 PM by Pig_catapult
As only the OP thinks these should be merged, I'm going to lock this. I believe it's run it's course.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Why do we need a separate trope for slurs related to fantastic racism? What reason for that doesn't also serve as a reason to split off Fantastic Hate Crime, Fantastic Stereotype, Fantastic Segregation, etc...?
"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart