Alright, so in TRS Badass Gay came up for discussion and it was agreed that there appears to big problem with the Badass X tropes in general, which needs to be sorted out until something can be ruled on for Badass Gay.
Here's a courtesy link: TRS page
. And Badass page with its subtropes. You can also visit the sandbox page here.
Noted Problems include:
- Tropes are just listings of characters people thing are badass who happen to have a certain trait. (The Badass + Trait Problem)
- Badass X as a naming scheme is actually very vague and doesn't give a lot of insight into what the character trope actually is, assuming it is a trope.
- Badass X as a naming scheme proliferates the use of Badass + Trait 'tropes'.
Suggested things to do include:
- Make it a requirement that a badass character trope means a character is "badass because of a trait", or "badass in spite of a trait".
- Renaming away from the Badass X naming scheme as much as possible.
- Cut, redefine or re-purpose things that are just Badass + trait.
There are also a lot of tropes that seem to be valid character-types, but have the naming scheme 'Badass X', when there's more to the trope than that. There are also a lot of prop or event or whatever tropes that need to be gone through as well.
Edited by Berrenta on May 15th 2020 at 7:39:14 AM
That's fine. I just needed to know if it had been dealt with or was queued for later.
Thanks for the response.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Badass Grandpa's wick count is at 4498.
Update bumb. Badass Grandpa's wick count is at 4477.
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... I feel as if people are adding more wicks than we're changing. Badass Princess was far easier than this.
edited 11th May '18 3:18:28 PM by erazor0707
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
They do keep getting added. Perhaps we could ask in locked pages for Badass Grandpa to be red linked even though the page exists for the moment, to detract from it being added and hopefully get more people replacing wicks.
edited 11th May '18 3:04:20 PM by lakingsif
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Maybe.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
I like the sound of that.
The count has gone up again. We need some official notice on the page to discourage people from adding more wicks, and a more numerous and concentrated effort at removing the wicks. I'll admit that I'm not spending a lot of time on this, but it doesn't look like anyone else is either.
OK, we can add a note, make it into the disambig already, and ask for a red link, which do you prefer?
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I'll admit I'm not spending as much time either as we did in Badass Princess, but this is more epidemic than I thought.
I say red link to get the point across: stop using this trope, it's going down.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
4426.
i also havent been dewicking nearly as consistently.
Septimus said that they can't redlink it, so I think we should write it into the disambig already and keep on dewicking. It can't take that long, and obviously this is a great voluntary thing we're all doing so if it does take time because it's noone's main priority then it does.
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OK. Disambig it is.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Draft for the page here.
Also, 4411 and there should be no 'z' wicks left.
edited 24th May '18 5:55:35 PM by lakingsif
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Should the following pages in the Badass Grandpa/ namespace be deleted?
- Animated Films
- Anime And Manga
- Comic Books
- Fan Works
- Literature
- Live Action Films
- Live Action TV
- Music
- Professional Wrestling
- Sports
- Tabletop Games
- Theatre
- Video Games
- Webcomics
- Web Original
- Real Life
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I like the draft. It has the root essence of the general idea and provides a good list of more specific tropes.
The Unknown Unknown
Great work on the draft.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Thanks guys
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The only problem I have with the draft is that it says what it says and then lists Never Mess with Granny as an option, which feels like it has exactly the same problem the draft points out — it just escapes with the loophole of not having 'badass' in the trope name.
That, however, is an issue with the trope, not your draft.
edited 26th May '18 8:35:52 AM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Then we'll leave off Never Mess with Granny pending some discussion of it — if there's no other issues, I'll move the draft to the main page tomorrow.
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4332
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Ah, that seem to have did the trick.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
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I admit I was unaware of this until recently and have been adding the trope, which have been deleted on short notice. Will from now on cut, or merge the descriptions to other character tropes.
Srg. Dornan: Troper, what are you doing here?! Get back to your post!!!
Badass Grandpa's wick count is at 4524